Colleges that do NOT push individual pronouns

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago also publishes the U Chicago Queer Compass. http://lgbtq.uchicago.edu/sites/lgbtq.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/UChicago%20Queer%20Compass%202012.pdf


Chicago also refused to let Richard Spenser speak, for all that they said any guest would be welcome in their letter. Turns out the liberal elites are just over the rise of the Nazis

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170814/hyde-park/white-nationalist-richard-spencers-request-speak-rejected-by-u-of-c/

I understand free speech and stuff, but I don't understand why people get upset about not wanting to support a white supremicist speaking on their campus. If you support the "rights" of nazis to speak, then maybe that is a euphemism for supporting the nazi-sim?

If anti-whites can speak, let Spencer speak. BTW, I think Spencer is trashy and a joke of a scholar, but he’s no worse than a nut like Mark Lamont Hill

You are equating Richard Spencer with someone who earned a PhD from U-Penn? I don't agree with Mark Lamont Hall either, but that is a really poor comparison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

The US didn't have a state church because the founding fathers understood the proper role of religion in government (none) - they also understood there were a variety of religions. One of Jefferson's closest confidants was a "mooslim," there were Protestants of all different flavors, Jews, Quakers etc all in the US before there was a US.

To say that the Founders believed that religion had no place in government is laughable. Read some of Washington’s speeches

Gay fascism has no place in government

You are equating a respecful use of pronouns with "gay fascism?"

Wow.

[Anonymous]

I work at a university and while I have no problem using the pronouns that someone wants, it has become a bit of a circus.

I have been in meetings where they go around and ask people to state their pronouns - which to me is going to potentially make someone have to out themselves or be put on the spot in an uncomfortable way.

I have also been asked my pronouns many times in a way that was not optional. Many staff at my school now include their pronouns in their signature. There are stickers at conferences so you can put your pronouns on your badge etc. If you don't - people will keep telling you where the pronoun stickers are.

To me a lot of it isn't sincere, it is another bandwagon - a look at me and how progressive I am. I think a few years and it will fade away and won't be this spotlight on pronouns where it is so in your face. It will be the next thing. The vast majority of people (trans included) use pronouns that match their name / appearance. There are only a few who use gender neutral pronouns or no pronouns at all and those folks mostly like to tell you exactly how to refer to them anyways. I will be glad when this fad fades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chicago also publishes the U Chicago Queer Compass. http://lgbtq.uchicago.edu/sites/lgbtq.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/UChicago%20Queer%20Compass%202012.pdf


Chicago also refused to let Richard Spenser speak, for all that they said any guest would be welcome in their letter. Turns out the liberal elites are just over the rise of the Nazis

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170814/hyde-park/white-nationalist-richard-spencers-request-speak-rejected-by-u-of-c/

I understand free speech and stuff, but I don't understand why people get upset about not wanting to support a white supremicist speaking on their campus. If you support the "rights" of nazis to speak, then maybe that is a euphemism for supporting the nazi-sim?

If anti-whites can speak, let Spencer speak. BTW, I think Spencer is trashy and a joke of a scholar, but he’s no worse than a nut like Mark Lamont Hill

You are equating Richard Spencer with someone who earned a PhD from U-Penn? I don't agree with Mark Lamont Hall either, but that is a really poor comparison.

No, it’s not. Spencer was in a PhD program at Duke but left to pursue “thought crime” as he puts it.

Leftists don’t even want Charles Murray( who’s a far better scholar than both Spencer and Hill) speaking on campuses today. Look at what happened at Middlebury

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chicago also publishes the U Chicago Queer Compass. http://lgbtq.uchicago.edu/sites/lgbtq.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/UChicago%20Queer%20Compass%202012.pdf


Chicago also refused to let Richard Spenser speak, for all that they said any guest would be welcome in their letter. Turns out the liberal elites are just over the rise of the Nazis

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170814/hyde-park/white-nationalist-richard-spencers-request-speak-rejected-by-u-of-c/

I understand free speech and stuff, but I don't understand why people get upset about not wanting to support a white supremicist speaking on their campus. If you support the "rights" of nazis to speak, then maybe that is a euphemism for supporting the nazi-sim?

If anti-whites can speak, let Spencer speak. BTW, I think Spencer is trashy and a joke of a scholar, but he’s no worse than a nut like Mark Lamont Hill

You are equating Richard Spencer with someone who earned a PhD from U-Penn? I don't agree with Mark Lamont Hall either, but that is a really poor comparison.

I agree, Spencer is human garbage but a more apt comparison would be Charles Murray. I would guarantee you that none of those college protestors bothered to read his books or examine the extensive scholarly support they have received from the community. These protestors are mindless sheep that lap up whatever misleading propaganda they're being fed that day all in the name of radical progressivism. There's no intellectual curiously or willingness to travel outside of their comfort zone to explore alternate ideas. They're intransigent babies that are manipulated like puppets to fulfill the agenda of a radical minority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

The US didn't have a state church because the founding fathers understood the proper role of religion in government (none) - they also understood there were a variety of religions. One of Jefferson's closest confidants was a "mooslim," there were Protestants of all different flavors, Jews, Quakers etc all in the US before there was a US.

To say that the Founders believed that religion had no place in government is laughable. Read some of Washington’s speeches

Gay fascism has no place in government

You are equating a respecful use of pronouns with "gay fascism?"

Wow.

If one is being forced to use them it’s LGBT fascism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

Wake up, dear. Even the 1960s were a long time ago.

Ah...if only America could go back to the way it was! When it was God-fearing; when God's love and will reigned from sea to shining sea; when people owned other people and women didn't have the vote!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

Wake up, dear. Even the 1960s were a long time ago.

Ah...if only America could go back to the way it was! When it was God-fearing; when God's love and will reigned from sea to shining sea; when people owned other people and women didn't have the vote!

You just captured the spirit of “MAGA”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

Wake up, dear. Even the 1960s were a long time ago.

Ah...if only America could go back to the way it was! When it was God-fearing; when God's love and will reigned from sea to shining sea; when people owned other people and women didn't have the vote!

You just captured the spirit of “MAGA”.

The place of women is primarily ascwives and mothers. Husbands represent the family unit sobwomen don’t need the vote.

People own other people today. Look at how large corporations treat employees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

Wake up, dear. Even the 1960s were a long time ago.

Ah...if only America could go back to the way it was! When it was God-fearing; when God's love and will reigned from sea to shining sea; when people owned other people and women didn't have the vote!

You just captured the spirit of “MAGA”.

The place of women is primarily ascwives and mothers. Husbands represent the family unit sobwomen don’t need the vote.

People own other people today. Look at how large corporations treat employees

Ladies and Gentlemen...what the Republican Party has become.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting OP didn't lead with the Virginia Tech example.

Here is statement from the VP for Student Affairs at Virginia Tech:
"Virginia Tech has a deep commitment to respect all individuals and to value human diversity. We articulate that commitment in our Principles of Community.

Stating one’s gender pronoun is a personal decision. No one in the Virginia Tech community is required to do so."

Penny Nance's editorial was published on the Federalist website:
"My Son’s Freshman Orientation At Virginia Tech Was Full Of Leftist Propaganda
Now that I have witnessed college propaganda firsthand, I refuse to ignore the indefensible and discriminatory behavior of the liberal campus bullies anymore."

And later: "First, send screen shots, video, or your story to Concerned Women for America at [e-mail]. We won’t disclose your name without permission, but we will tell your story."

The woman is on a mission.

Concerned Women for America, in their "who we are" website section, states:

"Concerned Women for America (CWA) is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with a rich history of over 35 years of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy. "


Let me repeat: "bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy"

They have a right to push for that, just like Atheists have a right to push Atheism. It’s America

Separation of Church and State was a founding principal of the USA.

Ignorant nonsense. The U. S didn’t have a state Church because there were many Protestant denominations. It was meant to protect the churches. We had prayer and Bible reading in public schools until the 1960s

Wake up, dear. Even the 1960s were a long time ago.

Ah...if only America could go back to the way it was! When it was God-fearing; when God's love and will reigned from sea to shining sea; when people owned other people and women didn't have the vote!

You just captured the spirit of “MAGA”.

The place of women is primarily ascwives and mothers. Husbands represent the family unit sobwomen don’t need the vote.

People own other people today. Look at how large corporations treat employees

So corporations own people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a university and while I have no problem using the pronouns that someone wants, it has become a bit of a circus.

I have been in meetings where they go around and ask people to state their pronouns - which to me is going to potentially make someone have to out themselves or be put on the spot in an uncomfortable way.

I have also been asked my pronouns many times in a way that was not optional. Many staff at my school now include their pronouns in their signature. There are stickers at conferences so you can put your pronouns on your badge etc. If you don't - people will keep telling you where the pronoun stickers are.

To me a lot of it isn't sincere, it is another bandwagon - a look at me and how progressive I am. I think a few years and it will fade away and won't be this spotlight on pronouns where it is so in your face. It will be the next thing. The vast majority of people (trans included) use pronouns that match their name / appearance. There are only a few who use gender neutral pronouns or no pronouns at all and those folks mostly like to tell you exactly how to refer to them anyways. I will be glad when this fad fades.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a university and while I have no problem using the pronouns that someone wants, it has become a bit of a circus.

I have been in meetings where they go around and ask people to state their pronouns - which to me is going to potentially make someone have to out themselves or be put on the spot in an uncomfortable way.

I have also been asked my pronouns many times in a way that was not optional. Many staff at my school now include their pronouns in their signature. There are stickers at conferences so you can put your pronouns on your badge etc. If you don't - people will keep telling you where the pronoun stickers are.

To me a lot of it isn't sincere, it is another bandwagon - a look at me and how progressive I am. I think a few years and it will fade away and won't be this spotlight on pronouns where it is so in your face. It will be the next thing. The vast majority of people (trans included) use pronouns that match their name / appearance. There are only a few who use gender neutral pronouns or no pronouns at all and those folks mostly like to tell you exactly how to refer to them anyways. I will be glad when this fad fades.

Thank you.

This is how humanity grows, and why it happens on college campuses. If things were to remain static, then we would have places of intellectual curiosity and training. Though, to be honest, I guess that is how the GOP prefers it.

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-believe-college-education-bad-america-donald-trump-media-fake-news-634474

[Anonymous]

This is just not an issue a parent should be managing for a college-aged person. If you kid wants to seek out schools that don't do this, they (see what I did there) can do the research. However, if you want to avoid raising a snowflake, you might want to encourage your kid to seek out the college or university with the strongest program in their intended major for the best price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just not an issue a parent should be managing for a college-aged person. If you kid wants to seek out schools that don't do this, they (see what I did there) can do the research. However, if you want to avoid raising a snowflake, you might want to encourage your kid to seek out the college or university with the strongest program in their intended major for the best price.

But OP--ya know, the one who fails to see that *not every set of parents pays for college for every student*--seems to think that parents writing tuition checks = parents control where you go, what you study, etc., etc.

So, basically OP doesn't see any problem with tightly holding those purse strings and securing those apron strings. I am so glad that my parents, who did pay for my college, respected me as an adult and trusted me to make good choices FOR MY LIFE AND FUTURE.