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FPYCparent wrote:Here are some links to the Fall 2019 divisions with the teams as listed by NCSL:

Division 1 <== Link
ARL 08G Black
ARL 08G Blue
FPYC United Blue 08
GFR 08 United
MCLN 2008 Girls Green/Pre ECNL
MSI Academy Green
MSI Academy White
PWSI Girls 2008 Red
SFCE 2008 Girls
SMS Fusion


Division 2 <== Link
BAC Badgers
GFR 08 Arsenal
LFC Thunder
LOUD 08G Silver
LOUD 08G White
MCLN 2008 Girls Gold
PAC Gold 08
SYC Pride 08 White
VSA 08G Premier Elite
VYS '08G Black


Division 3 <== Link
ALEX 2008 Girls White
BETH Academy Orange 06
BRYC Elite Academy U12 Elite
CSA Pride 08G
FCVA United Elite 08G
GSC Spirit Red 08
LMVS Patriots 2008 Red
OLNY Impact White
PWSI Girls 2008 Classic
WCU 08G Blue


Division 4 <== Link
EPIC Dash
AUSC 2008 Girls Premier
ALEX 2008 Girls Blue
FSCI Phoenix 08 Girls Orange
MCLN 2008 Girls Silver
PWSI Girls 2008 Pride
SYC Pride 08 Black
VRSC 08G Black
VRSC 08G Villarreal Yellow
VSA 08G Premier Red
VYS '08G White

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

Once again you try to change the subject a hair but doesn’t matter. Ok I’ll explain as simple as I can..

Small clubs= just starting out or dont have enough recognition to recruit players so they have one team. BUT BUT BUT ..... if they get popular and more kids attend then guess what? They will have a B and C team because who is going to turn away profit? So what are they going to say? Dont worry we will still develop the B and C teams because look at our A team then Wooolah now they are exactly what u describe a medium/big club who argues dont ever develop or whatever.

So did we learn something? You said big clubs don't develop its my first rodeo but now you change and say you’re only talking about the B and C teams? of course but the basis was a club who wins medals and games means the club hasn’t developed kids..

We aren't the same person. I did not write that post. I just wrote the next one...about the kid told he was a star by all the coaches and on top team right out of the gate in my house....versus siblings.

[Anonymous]

FPYCparent wrote:Getting back to NCSL Fall 2019 …

I agree that the final alignment of NCSL divisions could be drastically different by the time the season starts. I was just surprised to see this information posted online, especially if this is just a draft. (NOTE: There aren’t any direct links to these Fall 2019 division alignments. I just clicked on DD’s team history and saw ‘Fall 2019.’)

Over the next month or so, I think we’ll all start to see how clubs may be positioning themselves for U13 and beyond as DA and ECNL become a factor. I also think we may be getting a first glimpse of the inter-/intra- club-level changes resulting from TD/staffing moves, as well as other league moves (below the DA/ECNL level).

…

As a 2008 parent heading into my fourth year of NCSL experience, here’s my initial take on what’s been posted by the league:

From Spring 2019 to Fall 2019, the girls’ age group has grown from 35 teams to 41 as currently listed. The following nine teams played in this age group in the Spring, but don’t currently have any NCSL division assignment for the fall:

Great Falls-Reston 09 Spirit Pre-Academy (Division 1, was already playing up a year)
Doradus (SDor) 'G08 Elite (D1)
La Plata Kraken (D1)
Olney Impact Blue … was OLNY Mustangs (D1)
SAC United Blue (D2)
EPIC 08G Typhoon (D3)
South County Green 08G (D4)
Potomac SA White 08 (D4)
Bethesda White 08 (D4)

Did these teams re-up with NCSL? Go to another league (maybe EDP for the Maryland teams)? Fold? It may be interesting to learn what eventually happened.

…

I want to believe that promotion/relegation for this group started with the transition from Fall 2018 to Spring 2019. If that’s the case, I don’t know if/why the league would start over for Fall 2019. Here are the transitions of teams that were already in NCSL going into this fall:

McLean 2008G Green – Played up at U12 Division 1 in the Spring, staying at U12 Division 1 for the Fall
Five U11 D1 teams remain in D1 for U12 Fall
One U11 D1 team (VSA 08G Pre-Academy NCSL Elite) falls to U12 D2 (this was the last place D1 team from the Spring)

To fill the remaining slots in U12 D1, three D2 teams (Arlington 08G Black, MSI Academy Green, and PWSI 2008G Red) and one D3 team (MSI Academy White) were all promoted.

Six D2 teams remain in D2 (SYC Pride 08 White ... formerly SYC Pride 08 Orange, Leesburg Thunder, Loudoun 08G White, Burke AC Badgers, Vienna '08G Black, Premier AC Gold 08).
Three D3 teams were promoted to D2 (Great Falls-Reston 08 Arsenal, McLean 2008 Girls Gold, Loudoun 08G Silver)

Things *might* be a little more interesting with Divisions 3 and 4.

One team remains in D3 (Olney Impact White)
Four D4 teams were promoted to D3 (Gunston Spirit Red 08, Calvert Pride 08G, Alexandria 08 Girls White, WCU 08G Blue ... was WCFC 08G Red).
The remaining slots in D3 were filled by teams new to NCSL (Braddock Road Elite Academy, FC Virginia United 08G … ??from VPL??, PWSI Courage Girls 2008 Classic … from ODSL G1, "BETH Academy Orange 06," Lee-Mount Vernon Patriots 2008 Red ... not the "old" LMVSC Patriots Red that may have moved to SYC as its top team in the age group).

Division 4 has expanded to 11 teams, including two that were relegated from D3 (SYC Pride 08 Black ... was SYC Pride 08 White, Vienna '08G White).
The other nine teams are all new to NCSL (Alexandria 08 Girls Blue ... from ODSL G2, EPIC Dash … perhaps a reincarnation of EPIC Typhoon?, Antietam 2008G Premier, Fredericksburg Phoenix 08G Orange, McLean 2008G Silver, PWSI Girls 08 Pride, Virginia Revolution 08G Black, Virginia Revolution 08G Villareal Yellow, VSA 08G Premier Red).

I hadn’t heard of Virginia Revolution Soccer Club prior to finding all of this. A brief check of the club’s website indicates that it was founded in 2018. It seems they may be absorbing some of the Villareal Yellow (from Annandale?) teams. I guess it is time to update my map!

https://varevolutionsoccer.com/

Great Falls 09 will move to NPL this year most likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

The club had 2 teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

Once again you try to change the subject a hair but doesn’t matter. Ok I’ll explain as simple as I can..

Small clubs= just starting out or dont have enough recognition to recruit players so they have one team. BUT BUT BUT ..... if they get popular and more kids attend then guess what? They will have a B and C team because who is going to turn away profit? So what are they going to say? Dont worry we will still develop the B and C teams because look at our A team then Wooolah now they are exactly what u describe a medium/big club who argues dont ever develop or whatever.

So did we learn something? You said big clubs don't develop its my first rodeo but now you change and say you’re only talking about the B and C teams? of course but the basis was a club who wins medals and games means the club hasn’t developed kids..

Relax. Did someone hit a nerve? The poster's statement is completely true. Why do you think the smaller club wants a B and C team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

The club had 2 teams.

The tryout scenario is what happens at big clubs 4-6 teams per age group. There just isn't time or space to adequately watch and select that high a number of kids in such a short amount of time. And, the teeny field they are all bunched up in shows nothing. So---take the kid to a place where they are seeing everyone in many different scenarios and taking the time to develop each kid. A lot of younger age teams in big clubs are after thought as they focus on the older groups that bring the recognition. You get the most physically dominant young you will win. You then can cut them later when you form your 'winning U14/15/16' teams from kids from all over the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

The club had 2 teams.

And so??

Often times clubs with two teams per age group simply share the same coach and often practice together. This is another advantage and something that large clubs will almost never do.

[Anonymous]

FPYCparent wrote:Getting back to NCSL Fall 2019 …

I agree that the final alignment of NCSL divisions could be drastically different by the time the season starts. I was just surprised to see this information posted online, especially if this is just a draft. (NOTE: There aren’t any direct links to these Fall 2019 division alignments. I just clicked on DD’s team history and saw ‘Fall 2019.’)

Over the next month or so, I think we’ll all start to see how clubs may be positioning themselves for U13 and beyond as DA and ECNL become a factor. I also think we may be getting a first glimpse of the inter-/intra- club-level changes resulting from TD/staffing moves, as well as other league moves (below the DA/ECNL level).

…

As a 2008 parent heading into my fourth year of NCSL experience, here’s my initial take on what’s been posted by the league:

From Spring 2019 to Fall 2019, the girls’ age group has grown from 35 teams to 41 as currently listed. The following nine teams played in this age group in the Spring, but don’t currently have any NCSL division assignment for the fall:

Great Falls-Reston 09 Spirit Pre-Academy (Division 1, was already playing up a year)
Doradus (SDor) 'G08 Elite (D1)
La Plata Kraken (D1)
Olney Impact Blue … was OLNY Mustangs (D1)
SAC United Blue (D2)
EPIC 08G Typhoon (D3)
South County Green 08G (D4)
Potomac SA White 08 (D4)
Bethesda White 08 (D4)

Did these teams re-up with NCSL? Go to another league (maybe EDP for the Maryland teams)? Fold? It may be interesting to learn what eventually happened.

…

I want to believe that promotion/relegation for this group started with the transition from Fall 2018 to Spring 2019. If that’s the case, I don’t know if/why the league would start over for Fall 2019. Here are the transitions of teams that were already in NCSL going into this fall:

McLean 2008G Green – Played up at U12 Division 1 in the Spring, staying at U12 Division 1 for the Fall
Five U11 D1 teams remain in D1 for U12 Fall
One U11 D1 team (VSA 08G Pre-Academy NCSL Elite) falls to U12 D2 (this was the last place D1 team from the Spring)

To fill the remaining slots in U12 D1, three D2 teams (Arlington 08G Black, MSI Academy Green, and PWSI 2008G Red) and one D3 team (MSI Academy White) were all promoted.

Six D2 teams remain in D2 (SYC Pride 08 White ... formerly SYC Pride 08 Orange, Leesburg Thunder, Loudoun 08G White, Burke AC Badgers, Vienna '08G Black, Premier AC Gold 08).
Three D3 teams were promoted to D2 (Great Falls-Reston 08 Arsenal, McLean 2008 Girls Gold, Loudoun 08G Silver)

Things *might* be a little more interesting with Divisions 3 and 4.

One team remains in D3 (Olney Impact White)
Four D4 teams were promoted to D3 (Gunston Spirit Red 08, Calvert Pride 08G, Alexandria 08 Girls White, WCU 08G Blue ... was WCFC 08G Red).
The remaining slots in D3 were filled by teams new to NCSL (Braddock Road Elite Academy, FC Virginia United 08G … ??from VPL??, PWSI Courage Girls 2008 Classic … from ODSL G1, "BETH Academy Orange 06," Lee-Mount Vernon Patriots 2008 Red ... not the "old" LMVSC Patriots Red that may have moved to SYC as its top team in the age group).

Division 4 has expanded to 11 teams, including two that were relegated from D3 (SYC Pride 08 Black ... was SYC Pride 08 White, Vienna '08G White).
The other nine teams are all new to NCSL (Alexandria 08 Girls Blue ... from ODSL G2, EPIC Dash … perhaps a reincarnation of EPIC Typhoon?, Antietam 2008G Premier, Fredericksburg Phoenix 08G Orange, McLean 2008G Silver, PWSI Girls 08 Pride, Virginia Revolution 08G Black, Virginia Revolution 08G Villareal Yellow, VSA 08G Premier Red).

I hadn’t heard of Virginia Revolution Soccer Club prior to finding all of this. A brief check of the club’s website indicates that it was founded in 2018. It seems they may be absorbing some of the Villareal Yellow (from Annandale?) teams. I guess it is time to update my map!

https://varevolutionsoccer.com/

You are an incredible resource to this soccer forum. Thank you for the wealth of information and analyses!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

The club had 2 teams.

And so??

Often times clubs with two teams per age group simply share the same coach and often practice together. This is another advantage and something that large clubs will almost never do.

Big clubs do do it and it is not an advantage. The coach just works with the top 1/2 of the first team and ignores the rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

The club had 2 teams.

And so??

Often times clubs with two teams per age group simply share the same coach and often practice together. This is another advantage and something that large clubs will almost never do.

Big clubs do do it and it is not an advantage. The coach just works with the top 1/2 of the first team and ignores the rest.

There is greater pressure to win at the big clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess every club that wins games and tournaments don’t develop kids at all

First time at the Rodeo?

They win with most physically dominant....and then cut kids and heavily recruit in the later years. I have 3 kids that all made top teams in their teens, coming from a small developmental Club. I know many more that were A team standouts in the wee-little years get cut at U13/14.

No not my first rodeo just because you were at a small club obviously you have to be biased towards your club. Sorry to say but you’re completely wrong, Every small club has the same one liner saying “ We are different we develop” but then turn around on the website and show which tournaments they participated in and won you don’t think if every club could show medals they would? It’s funny when you see a small club turn big then everyone points the finger right back at them. EVERY CLUB has both good players and bad not every small club develops a superstar same not every big club develops a superstar. Happy to teach you more if you respond.

The small clubs are good best at developing the overlooked kids who would be stuck on a B or C team at a big club and likely receive poor coaching. Those B and C teams win just as few medals. Being at a small club where the coach may likely be of higher quality than the Big club and having more attention can and does develop those players who do come in and displace those "stars" we like to talk about so much who have their fall from grace.

Yes, getting caught up in the big clubs team color hierarchy game does little for developing the overlooked.

And when we are talkinga about looking at 100-150 7 and 8 year olds in 1 hour and then sorting them immediately, it becomes even more ridiculous. They set them then. It makes sense a kid that has potential and went somehwere that took the time to nurture it and realize different developmental timelines could achieve much more. Burn out factor becomes lower also when a player feels like a coach and Club is invested in them. Grit is a biggie too. Starting at the top and being told your wonderful for many kids means they don't work as hard as the kid that wants to prove everyone wrong. Again, this does not apply to every player. But, in my house the one kid people were calling 'little Pele' and grew cocky was the one not in the backyard practicing daily...llike the other kids that later surpassed him in talent.

When you have been through the process yourself and then have grown kids, you will see how it plays out. There is a lot of wasted energy directed in the wrong way in the early years.

If a club has 3 teams per age group they stopped being a small club.

The club had 2 teams.

And so??

Often times clubs with two teams per age group simply share the same coach and often practice together. This is another advantage and something that large clubs will almost never do.

Big clubs do do it and it is not an advantage. The coach just works with the top 1/2 of the first team and ignores the rest.

There is greater pressure to win at the big clubs.

Big clubs vs little clubs:

“It’s not the size of the wave but the motion of the ocean.”

“It’s not the size of the sword, but it’s the fury of the attack.”

“It’s not the size that counts, it’s knowing how to use it counts.”

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FPYCparent wrote:I know, I know. I didn't want to start a new thread yet.

Per the league website, it seems that NCSL is starting to line up its U12 girls divisions for the fall season. Thus far, there appears to be 10 teams across Divisions 1, 2, and 3. (I don't yet know if there is a Division 4. There was a fourth division in the spring.)

I'll assume that this information isn't finalized and is subject to change, but here's what I've discerned (or flat out guessed) thus far.

Four teams from Division 1 (U11-Spring 2019) aren't listed in **any ** NCSL divisions for the fall. Perhaps these teams are moving to other leagues … or disbanded. It may be possible that these teams will play in another age group within NCSL. Same applies to one team that was Division 2 and three teams that were Division 3 in the spring.

BRYC brings their Elite Academy (or is it Academy Elite) team to NCSL (previously unaffiliated with a league) and were placed in Division 3. Same goes for FC Virginia United (was VPL) and PWSI Classic (was ODSL). There are two other teams now in Division 3 for the fall that have no history that **I** can trace: "Bethesda Academy Orange **06**" (not 08) and LMVS Patriots 2008 Red (not the original Red team that's now at SYC). Perhaps that's LMVSC White (from CCL) that's now designated as Red.

BRYC team is likely 09s playing up. Bethesda 06 has to be a typo. FCV still in NPL, so likely either 09s or a 2nd team of 08s.

BRYC team is not 09s playing up.

True. it is BRYC second team (BRYC Elite Academy U12 Elite ) for the age group.
There is 09 U12 ECNL, and this "BRYC Elite Academy U12 Elite " is the previous Blue team.

There’s an 09 u12 ECNL team at BRYC?

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No. ECNL starts at U13.

At U12, Braddock Road has a "pre-ECNL" team, which was called "BRYC Elite" at U11. "BRYC Blue", the #2 team, at U12 gets renamend BRYC Elite since the original BRYC Elite is now called pre-ecnl.

Everyone just gets a different name. Make sense?

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