What Schools are Considered 2T?
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Anonymous
DE is worse than hackley even in Manhattan kids go. I’d put leman 32. Herschel ramaz 33 and 34. I’d be furious paying for Trevor for it to be spammed and considered a punchline across multiple message boards. Bump it up to 31 out of pity |
Anonymous
DC chose HM over Trinity. Oh, the horror!!! This is getting silly. |
Anonymous
These schools are more rankable than the colleges and universities USNews covers, with a wider range of culture and pedagogy |
Anonymous
There’s some serious bias against the catholic schools. I don’t know about SVF but Xavier, Fordham Prep and DA are all very good and a fraction of the cost. They also have honors programs and merit aid. Good options for those that don’t want to spend 70k a year on high school. Would probably pick DA over CSH and Marymount and certainly know people who have. |
Anonymous
That doesn’t mean it’s better than it, you get what you pay for. Maybe Dwight Trevor and GCS are worse than Xavier, toss up |
Anonymous
They may or may not be objectively rankable based on their culture and pedagogy, but this comparison is impossible to make for anyone who doesn’t have kids at a multitude of these schools. Considering how small the total student body is, there is very little objective data to go by — which is why people overindex for matriculations and exclusivity, when culture and pedagogy is indeed what should matter more. |
Anonymous
Largely agree. Trevor is 20s and DE is in the same range. Loyola should be lower, as should Marymount and Sacred Heart - funny that the poster over-rates these yet likely under-rates some of the other Catholics that were dumped at the bottom. UNIS should be a little better. Collegiate is not 2 - slightly lower. |
Anonymous
It’s because Loyola, CSH and Marymount are expensive. All about the money. |
Anonymous
Disagree, Loyola is about right, if anything UNIS is too high. Trevor is 20s but in that 27-29 range. |
Anonymous
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This looks like a very specific DC Urban Moms / NYC private-school parent prestige ranking, not a ranking of current academic quality or where families are applying today.
A few things jump out immediately: 1. Trevor at #35 is wildly out of sync with current reality That’s the biggest thing. Whether someone loves Trevor or not, putting it: * below Dwight * below Calhoun * below Lycée * below UNIS * below Xavier * below Fordham Prep * below Notre Dame would surprise most people involved in Manhattan admissions today. This feels like a ranking frozen around the early 2000s, when Trevor had a much weaker reputation. 2. Nightingale is too low Nightingale at #14 is hard to justify. Most current observers would place Nightingale closer to: * Dalton * Spence * Chapin * Sacred Heart than to schools ranked 15–25. 3. Sacred Heart is too low Same issue. Many NYC families would rank Sacred Heart above: * Marymount * Grace Church * Packer * Poly * Avenues without much hesitation. 4. Avenues is probably too low Avenues is polarizing, but #19 feels low. Many current families would place it somewhere in the 10–15 range. 5. Grace Church is probably too low Grace at #16 feels low given current demand and outcomes. 6. The top is mostly old-school prestige The placement of: * Trinity * Collegiate * Dalton * Spence * Brearley * Horace Mann * Chapin is very much a traditional prestige ranking. You can argue over the exact order, but that’s clearly the logic. What the ranking is really measuring If I had to guess, this ranking is measuring: “If you gathered wealthy NYC private-school alumni aged 50–75 and asked them to rank schools by prestige.” For that purpose, it actually makes sense. That’s why: * Trevor is #35. * Grace is #16. * Avenues is #19. * Nightingale is #14. * Sacred Heart is #13. Those schools have improved dramatically relative to where they sat in the old hierarchy. My biggest disagreement If we’re talking 2025–2026 perception among active Manhattan parents, I’d probably move: Up * Nightingale * Sacred Heart * Grace Church * Avenues * Trevor Down * Loyola (slightly) * Xavier * Notre Dame * Dwight * UNIS The Trevor placement is the one that makes me think the list is mostly historical prestige. I could see reasonable people putting Trevor at #10, #15, even #20. But #35 says more about where Trevor was a generation ago than where it is today. So my overall take is: As a historical-prestige ranking: 8/10. As a current-market Manhattan parent ranking: maybe 5/10. The further down the list you go, the more it seems to undervalue schools whose reputations have risen in the last 10–20 years. |
Anonymous
I think Dwight’s reputation has improved since I was younger. Not sure what you have against UNIS or Xavier. I know smart kids at both schools. Loyola shouldn’t be that much higher than the other Catholics. Seems like many of their kids are going to Fordham, Fairfield, BC and Villanova. |
Anonymous
Mostly agree. However Trevor at 10 or 15 is indefensible. 20 is a stretch because it doesn’t fill a specific niche like Loyola (which isn’t as good, you get my point). |
Anonymous
Someone has to go to low ranked schools, and I don’t know what else would be where Unis or Xavier are. Unis has so much attrition and is a revolving door. Academics are spotty |
Anonymous
Lots of really great points - thanks. I agree with the vast majority of it. You wasted your breath on Trevor. I think someone noted that this was largely a joke. Unfortunately there is a person (or people) who are obsessive in their hatred of Trevor, so I think this was kind of a joke in response to that. I am assuming it was not done by them as the rest of it is generally pretty good. So don't base your judgement of the overall list on that specific ranking. Trevor probably belongs around 20. I think your claims of 10 or 15 are pretty aggressive but 20 is about right and still a lot better than where it was jokingly put. I also think Avenues is pretty accurate and would not change it, or definitely not as much as you are suggesting. If anything, I might have moved it down slightly, though not more than a spot or two. |
Anonymous
Spot on with avenues. I think it’s difficult to put Trevor above 20, the case for it being better than poly or packer or friends is pretty tenuous |