What Schools are Considered 2T?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Opinions may differ but Trevor Day is definitely TT.

Curious why you think so? Not arguing. I just never heard of anyone describe it as TT. I’ve heard T2 and T3 from most.

Sorry I was actually being facetious. Trevor gets a lot of hate on this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Opinions may differ but Trevor Day is definitely TT.

Curious why you think so? Not arguing. I just never heard of anyone describe it as TT. I’ve heard T2 and T3 from most.

Sorry I was actually being facetious. Trevor gets a lot of hate on this forum.

I'm pretty sure that's just one angry person, prior to their recent emergence the vibe on Trevor was generally "perfectly fine school that's recently been maybe a little harder to get into than it ought to be."

[Anonymous]

There is definitely a big gap between schools widely considered 2T and then those that are borderline or 3T. It is worth listing out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is definitely a big gap between schools widely considered 2T and then those that are borderline or 3T. It is worth listing out

Then can you do it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Opinions may differ but Trevor Day is definitely TT.

Curious why you think so? Not arguing. I just never heard of anyone describe it as TT. I’ve heard T2 and T3 from most.

Sorry I was actually being facetious. Trevor gets a lot of hate on this forum.

I'm pretty sure that's just one angry person, prior to their recent emergence the vibe on Trevor was generally "perfectly fine school that's recently been maybe a little harder to get into than it ought to be."

I would leave out the "than it ought to be" part - I think you've been hanging out with the hater too much. I think they have upped their game. Again - I am in no way, shape, or form stating that they resemble a TT.

Plus there is increased demand for a co-ed school in Manhattan and there are only so many seats at Trinity and Dalton, so they are filling it (and an increasing number of similar families are venturing down to Grace and Friends). There is some overlap with CGPS but I think it is a different vibe.

[Anonymous]

Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

All of those are 2T. Trevor isn’t quite there yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

This is solid. Then 3T CGP, Trevor, Dwight, Birch

[Anonymous]

There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

This is solid. Then 3T CGP, Trevor, Dwight, Birch

Not to be a hater but Dwight and Birch are lower than CGP and Trevor. Though Birch, which was getting kind of iffy, apparently has been moving up in the world.

[Anonymous]

"7 TT schools" is a belief going back to 2000s - early 2010s and many parents will not agree with this classification in 2026. Both Riverdale and St Ann's are borderline TT.

Fieldston may or may not be 2T these days - reasonable people may disagree. The same goes for CGP - some people will put it in 2T over 3T and they will have good arguments.

I still think the only non-controversial 2Ts are Nightingale and CSH. All the other "2T" names can be debated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"7 TT schools" is a belief going back to 2000s - early 2010s and many parents will not agree with this classification in 2026. Both Riverdale and St Ann's are borderline TT.

Fieldston may or may not be 2T these days - reasonable people may disagree. The same goes for CGP - some people will put it in 2T over 3T and they will have good arguments.

I still think the only non-controversial 2Ts are Nightingale and CSH. All the other "2T" names can be debated.

I'm a Jew with a boy so CSH isn't on my radar but from what I know it isn't really 2T. Regis (also not in my wheelhouse) seems more 2T than CSH is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.

This is the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

This is solid. Then 3T CGP, Trevor, Dwight, Birch

Not to be a hater but Dwight and Birch are lower than CGP and Trevor. Though Birch, which was getting kind of iffy, apparently has been moving up in the world.

Correct, BWL, while a lovely school, is nowhere near these schools. Also, Regis is a different kettle of fish, but academically is TT. To say anything else is insane.

As someone who recently went through the process, I think there are two different times you can rank schools, and the list of 2T/3Ts will be different for K entry and HS entry, St. Ann's and Riverdale are TT for that. For HS entry, Nightingale, Sacred Heart, Marymount, Friends, Packer, Browning, CGP, Fieldston, are harder to get into. For the most part, these are schools you don't bother applying to unless you have certain test scores and grades in your K-8 (and are unconnected). Then schools that had more wiggle room were Grace, Trevor, Poly (particularly if you are rich and/or an athlete), Berkeley Carroll, Dwight, LREI, Hewitt and last was BWL and York Prep. To their credit, they take a range of students, and I saw the most diversity of class levels there...everything from a class of 4 students taking AP Physics, to a "culture of language" class for students who weren't able to take a language. It felt like they truly met students where they were, and worked as hard to challenge their brightest students as they did to support their ADHD program kids.

Outliers that seemed to exist in their own bubbles--Loyola (although for Catholics and people who know, a 2T school), Xavier/Fordham Prep/Dominican, Avenues, Leman, UNIS...I'm sure I missed some, but this is off the top of my head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

This is solid. Then 3T CGP, Trevor, Dwight, Birch

Not to be a hater but Dwight and Birch are lower than CGP and Trevor. Though Birch, which was getting kind of iffy, apparently has been moving up in the world.

Correct, BWL, while a lovely school, is nowhere near these schools. Also, Regis is a different kettle of fish, but academically is TT. To say anything else is insane.

As someone who recently went through the process, I think there are two different times you can rank schools, and the list of 2T/3Ts will be different for K entry and HS entry, St. Ann's and Riverdale are TT for that. For HS entry, Nightingale, Sacred Heart, Marymount, Friends, Packer, Browning, CGP, Fieldston, are harder to get into. For the most part, these are schools you don't bother applying to unless you have certain test scores and grades in your K-8 (and are unconnected). Then schools that had more wiggle room were Grace, Trevor, Poly (particularly if you are rich and/or an athlete), Berkeley Carroll, Dwight, LREI, Hewitt and last was BWL and York Prep. To their credit, they take a range of students, and I saw the most diversity of class levels there...everything from a class of 4 students taking AP Physics, to a "culture of language" class for students who weren't able to take a language. It felt like they truly met students where they were, and worked as hard to challenge their brightest students as they did to support their ADHD program kids.

Outliers that seemed to exist in their own bubbles--Loyola (although for Catholics and people who know, a 2T school), Xavier/Fordham Prep/Dominican, Avenues, Leman, UNIS...I'm sure I missed some, but this is off the top of my head.

Lots of great points though I would move Grace up with the prior group. It has changed in recent years and I know a number of kids who got in there and not others in that peer group and a number of other kids who turned down peers (and even some TTs) for Grace. There are occasionally some exceptions at all schools but overall your groups are pretty good. Not sure about Browning and Packer being in 2 but not strongly opposed. And Trevor is at the top end of that subgroup, also pushing the higher group. Calhoun is also in the Dwight/LREI group. Leman is with York Prep - I don't see it being in a bubble. As others have said, Fieldston is a weird mix that is coasting on past reputation. It still has some very smart kids and families but loosened things up a lot too. I think they lost a lot of kids around Covid as they seemed to accept anyone with a pulse for a few years around then.