What Schools are Considered 2T?

[Anonymous]

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Correct. You are an imbecile if you think Susie gets into Yale from one TT and not another because of one school’s strength.

You think a school makes no makes no difference? Prove it.

Let me make a Time Machine for Susie with a 4.3, 1600, and published cancer treatment research so I can see if she’d get in from HM in addition from the SS she went to.

If you think HYP’s admissions offices differentiate between TT schools with a fine tooth comb you have ODd on kool aid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

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Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

THE SARCASM WENT TOTALLY OVER YOUR HEAD

[Anonymous]

I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Correct. You are an imbecile if you think Susie gets into Yale from one TT and not another because of one school’s strength.

You think a school makes no makes no difference? Prove it.

Let me make a Time Machine for Susie with a 4.3, 1600, and published cancer treatment research so I can see if she’d get in from HM in addition from the SS she went to.

Q.E.D.
You are just spewing unverifiable claims with faux authority to stroke your ego.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

Brearley should be above Spence, which are both above Dalton. Nightingale should switch with Fieldston.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

--

Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

THE SARCASM WENT TOTALLY OVER YOUR HEAD

They asked for it multiple times. They clearly think it is valuable. Which is stupid. If that is sarcasm then it is really awful sarcasm.

This thread started out reasonably helpful. I think we reached a general consensus on the tiers (with minor disagreements over some tweaks). Now it has jumped the shark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

Brearley over Spence (ds goes to spence), probably move up over Dalton. B could arguably be top 3. Fieldston lower. Dwight/Hewit lower. I assume Trevor is last for shits and giggles. calhoun lower. cgps low 20s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

--

Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

THE SARCASM WENT TOTALLY OVER YOUR HEAD

the top 10 schools are pretty much all the same. probably the next

They asked for it multiple times. They clearly think it is valuable. Which is stupid. If that is sarcasm then it is really awful sarcasm.

This thread started out reasonably helpful. I think we reached a general consensus on the tiers (with minor disagreements over some tweaks). Now it has jumped the shark.

the top 10 are probably all close to one another. the next 15 are the next tier down. then the bottom 10 kind of all the same. They are just different schools with different focuses. but the absolute rankings are kind of silly. buckets is the right way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

Brearley over Spence (ds goes to spence), probably move up over Dalton. B could arguably be top 3. Fieldston lower. Dwight/Hewit lower. I assume Trevor is last for shits and giggles. calhoun lower. cgps low 20s.

Feel free to make edits as you see fit. Obviously Trevor should be 35, maybe 28.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Correct. You are an imbecile if you think Susie gets into Yale from one TT and not another because of one school’s strength.

You think a school makes no makes no difference? Prove it.

Let me make a Time Machine for Susie with a 4.3, 1600, and published cancer treatment research so I can see if she’d get in from HM in addition from the SS she went to.

Q.E.D.
You are just spewing unverifiable claims with faux authority to stroke your ego.

Unless a college counselor is sleeping with Harvard’s admissions head, there is no inside track and no amount of packaging will get a student into a college that they wouldn’t have from another TT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

--

Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

THE SARCASM WENT TOTALLY OVER YOUR HEAD

the top 10 schools are pretty much all the same. probably the next

They asked for it multiple times. They clearly think it is valuable. Which is stupid. If that is sarcasm then it is really awful sarcasm.

This thread started out reasonably helpful. I think we reached a general consensus on the tiers (with minor disagreements over some tweaks). Now it has jumped the shark.

the top 10 are probably all close to one another. the next 15 are the next tier down. then the bottom 10 kind of all the same. They are just different schools with different focuses. but the absolute rankings are kind of silly. buckets is the right way.

Those ten aren’t close to each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

I feel like there are clusters. 1-7. 8-10. Fieldston is kind of all over the place but I guess it is fine.

12-15 are for a unique crowd. As a Jew with boys I don't know about 12-15 though I am guessing at least 1-2 of those should be lower - in the next tier (to be discussed in a moment).

16-20 go together with CGPS and Trevor in that bucket (sorry to the Trevor hater). Trevor is probably the bottom of the bucket. And I would probably move Friends above Avenues and Poly. Friends/Packer/GCS are interchangeable - I think I like it how it is but no strong argument on it.

If Hackley is in then Dwight-Englewood also should be and would be just below Trevor - more Manhattan kids at DE than Hackley.

Forgot Leman which is 30ish?

Going back to the original tiers as well as here, if we are including all of the Catholic schools then what about Heschel and Ramaz? A year or two ago Ramaz had ridiculously good exmissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

Brearley over Spence (ds goes to spence), probably move up over Dalton. B could arguably be top 3. Fieldston lower. Dwight/Hewit lower. I assume Trevor is last for shits and giggles. calhoun lower. cgps low 20s.

Brearley could arguably be top 1 (Niche has it there, and the college matriculations stats do as well). Collegiate's college numbers actually aren't as good as I would have expected. Still great, but certainly below Brearley and Spence. I think top 3 are Brearley, Spence, and Trinity in some order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

Brearley over Spence (ds goes to spence), probably move up over Dalton. B could arguably be top 3. Fieldston lower. Dwight/Hewit lower. I assume Trevor is last for shits and giggles. calhoun lower. cgps low 20s.

Brearley could arguably be top 1 (Niche has it there, and the college matriculations stats do as well). Collegiate's college numbers actually aren't as good as I would have expected. Still great, but certainly below Brearley and Spence. I think top 3 are Brearley, Spence, and Trinity in some order.

Posters should rearrange the rankings posted for ease of reading

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think this is a fair ranking. Feel free to correct it

1 Trinity
2 Collegiate
3 Dalton
4 Spence
5 Brearley
6 HM
7 Chapin
8 St Ann's
9 Regis
10 Riverdale
11 Fieldstone
12 Marymount
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Loyola
16 GCS
17 Packer
18 Poly
19 Avenues
20 Friends Seminary
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25Dwight
26 Calhoun
27 Hackley
28 Lycée
29 UNIS
30 Xavier
31 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
35 Trevor

It has been questioned several times but Marymount and Sacred Heart’s eximission results are subpar. They are worse than Friends Seminary. Please re-arrange accordingly.