What Schools are Considered 2T?

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Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

This is solid. Then 3T CGP, Trevor, Dwight, Birch

Not to be a hater but Dwight and Birch are lower than CGP and Trevor. Though Birch, which was getting kind of iffy, apparently has been moving up in the world.

Definitely moving up in the world since they got a new HOS two years ago who is fantastic who then poached Columbia Grammar & Prep's insanely talented college admissions person.

Are you the woman on the UES moms FB group that brings up birch every possible instance?

So funny. People don’t even rank Birch but they do rank Dwight. If there’s a 5T birch is it

isn’t birch special needs like York prep?

When we toured I think they said 25% were in their extra support program, and that it was pretty limited to ADHD. They specifically told someone on the tour who asked that they were not able to support a lot of other kinds of LD diagnosis. My DC has ADHD but is high achieving, so we were looking before we knew ISEE scores and what were going to be our target schools. I was impressed with how they seemed to be able to meet kids where they were, so there were some very advanced classes and some pretty low level ones. It's pretty much all mainstream classes, but when there's a "free period," kids who need additional supports go to the learning center.

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Anonymous wrote:Fieldston, CSH, Nightingale, St Anns, maybe Packer. Riverdale I would say has graduated to TT.

This is solid. Then 3T CGP, Trevor, Dwight, Birch

Not to be a hater but Dwight and Birch are lower than CGP and Trevor. Though Birch, which was getting kind of iffy, apparently has been moving up in the world.

Definitely moving up in the world since they got a new HOS two years ago who is fantastic who then poached Columbia Grammar & Prep's insanely talented college admissions person.

Are you the woman on the UES moms FB group that brings up birch every possible instance?

So funny. People don’t even rank Birch but they do rank Dwight. If there’s a 5T birch is it

isn’t birch special needs like York prep?

When we toured I think they said 25% were in their extra support program, and that it was pretty limited to ADHD. They specifically told someone on the tour who asked that they were not able to support a lot of other kinds of LD diagnosis. My DC has ADHD but is high achieving, so we were looking before we knew ISEE scores and what were going to be our target schools. I was impressed with how they seemed to be able to meet kids where they were, so there were some very advanced classes and some pretty low level ones. It's pretty much all mainstream classes, but when there's a "free period," kids who need additional supports go to the learning center.

Interesting - thank you for the information. I think this is a helpful sub-discussion about Birch that should be spun out of this thread as someone looking to learn about Birch likely isn't looking for info in a super long thread about 2Ts. I do not know how to do this.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s not just special needs but rather integrated. We have a family with a son there and they actually really like it.

We looked at it when we looked at York prep as well. I think it’s better than York prep. But we think Trevor is better and a bit more challenging.

The one issue was the class size was small in one grade.

Trevor is a notch better but it was on the same level not that long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s not just special needs but rather integrated. We have a family with a son there and they actually really like it.

We looked at it when we looked at York prep as well. I think it’s better than York prep. But we think Trevor is better and a bit more challenging.

The one issue was the class size was small in one grade.

Trevor is a notch better but it was on the same level not that long ago.

It felt like at BWL, if you are super high achieving and want to take a course that they don't have currently, students there spoke about how the administration would work to start the course or program...Trevor felt much less facile and flexible. Plus, Trevor doesn't do APs (which I like), but for students who want APs, particularly in science or math so that they can enter college at certain levels, BWL seemed more accommodating. There were 3 kids in an AP Physics course we saw, 4 in an AP Calc...they are incredibly different schools, from the building, to their ethos, to school uniforms, to their size. But I can see that if you're looking at schools with learning supports, the schools overlap in who looks at them. My DC really liked both, for different reasons, but ended up feeling BWL was too small, and Trevor too loud and without structure.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s not just special needs but rather integrated. We have a family with a son there and they actually really like it.

We looked at it when we looked at York prep as well. I think it’s better than York prep. But we think Trevor is better and a bit more challenging.

The one issue was the class size was small in one grade.

Trevor is a notch better but it was on the same level not that long ago.

It felt like at BWL, if you are super high achieving and want to take a course that they don't have currently, students there spoke about how the administration would work to start the course or program...Trevor felt much less facile and flexible. Plus, Trevor doesn't do APs (which I like), but for students who want APs, particularly in science or math so that they can enter college at certain levels, BWL seemed more accommodating. There were 3 kids in an AP Physics course we saw, 4 in an AP Calc...they are incredibly different schools, from the building, to their ethos, to school uniforms, to their size. But I can see that if you're looking at schools with learning supports, the schools overlap in who looks at them. My DC really liked both, for different reasons, but ended up feeling BWL was too small, and Trevor too loud and without structure.

So where did they go?

I think Trevor is more comparable to other schools than BWL is. Fewer kids with learning supports though there are some. We looked at it and liked it a lot but there were some things that led us to go elsewhere - nothing major that is worth discussing. I know it is a bit of an oxymoron, but if a kid wants a "normal" private HS experience without all of the glitz, glamor and stress of a TT but good academics and exmissions (I know some would argue their exmissions aren't good but they are - a kid who works hard and does well there has a decent chance at a TT school), Trevor is a good option. The obsessive hatred of it by one or two people here is weird and I'm sorry it has sidetracked all conversation of the school.

Note that I also view things primarily through the enter for HS lens.