Big Greek and Football Schools: The Only Real College Experience

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Anonymous wrote:My kids were in private schools in NY and Friday Night Lights it aint. There were parties, no doubt, but they didn't involve a sports events. They all went to T10 schools and had lots of fun. I bet they've been to 2 college football games ever btw the three of them in their college years. One went to Yale and he said the Harvard-Yale game was the first non-pro football game almost all his friends had ever been to.

I think it's easy to conflate your own experience with what people want. But that's almost never the case.

I don't understand the point of your post other than you want us all to know your kids went to T10 schools?

[Anonymous]

They wouldn’t make the cut at Bama’s fraternity class.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids were in private schools in NY and Friday Night Lights it aint. There were parties, no doubt, but they didn't involve a sports events. They all went to T10 schools and had lots of fun. I bet they've been to 2 college football games ever btw the three of them in their college years. One went to Yale and he said the Harvard-Yale game was the first non-pro football game almost all his friends had ever been to.

I think it's easy to conflate your own experience with what people want. But that's almost never the case.

I don't understand the point of your post other than you want us all to know your kids went to T10 schools?

She wants you to know that college football is beneath her. Had your children gone to the Correct Manhattan High School followed by the Correct University, they would have no interest in such plebeian pastimes. Therefore, even though she has no intention of sharing either her money or her status with you, she is urging you to make your own children feel ashamed of the things that bring them joy. It’s all very Edith Wharton.

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Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem, I think, is that many DCUM posters/mothers are so far removed from college -- they're typically in their 50s and not much younger -- that they can't remember what it's like to be young.

Sure, I wanted my kids to go to a reputable school and study. But I always wanted them to be happy, social, and to have a blast. When I read posts like "I love the quiet winter days of my remote SLAC" I'm like "what?? are you my grandmother??"

We're talking about kids, man! They have their whole lives ahead of them to be so damned serious. You people have lost your minds.

And all kids want exactly the same things all the time and conveniently, those are the things you think they all want.

Stop thinking as a grandma. Seriously, how old are you?

You mean your thinking isn’t as flexible as a grandma? Your brain is so calcified that you can only hold one idea of fun at a time?

+1. It's very strange thinking. People, including young people, find all kinds of things fun. It's weird to get bent out of shape about it. Lots of us had the chance to pick big state schools with lots of Greek life and big deal sports and didn't, at the age of 18, because we wanted something else. I'm not forgetting what it's like to be young, I remember deciding that wasn't for me when I was young. I've got no issue with people who did want that, but I didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids were in private schools in NY and Friday Night Lights it aint. There were parties, no doubt, but they didn't involve a sports events. They all went to T10 schools and had lots of fun. I bet they've been to 2 college football games ever btw the three of them in their college years. One went to Yale and he said the Harvard-Yale game was the first non-pro football game almost all his friends had ever been to.

I think it's easy to conflate your own experience with what people want. But that's almost never the case.

I don't understand the point of your post other than you want us all to know your kids went to T10 schools?

She wants you to know that college football is beneath her. Had your children gone to the Correct Manhattan High School followed by the Correct University, they would have no interest in such plebeian pastimes. Therefore, even though she has no intention of sharing either her money or her status with you, she is urging you to make your own children feel ashamed of the things that bring them joy. It’s all very Edith Wharton.

Oh, ok! Thanks for clearing that up. I was SO confused!

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Anonymous wrote:My kids were in private schools in NY and Friday Night Lights it aint. There were parties, no doubt, but they didn't involve a sports events. They all went to T10 schools and had lots of fun. I bet they've been to 2 college football games ever btw the three of them in their college years. One went to Yale and he said the Harvard-Yale game was the first non-pro football game almost all his friends had ever been to.

I think it's easy to conflate your own experience with what people want. But that's almost never the case.

I don't understand the point of your post other than you want us all to know your kids went to T10 schools?

TLDR nobody cares about football

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Anonymous wrote:My kids were in private schools in NY and Friday Night Lights it aint. There were parties, no doubt, but they didn't involve a sports events. They all went to T10 schools and had lots of fun. I bet they've been to 2 college football games ever btw the three of them in their college years. One went to Yale and he said the Harvard-Yale game was the first non-pro football game almost all his friends had ever been to.

I think it's easy to conflate your own experience with what people want. But that's almost never the case.

I don't understand the point of your post other than you want us all to know your kids went to T10 schools?

She wants you to know that college football is beneath her. Had your children gone to the Correct Manhattan High School followed by the Correct University, they would have no interest in such plebeian pastimes. Therefore, even though she has no intention of sharing either her money or her status with you, she is urging you to make your own children feel ashamed of the things that bring them joy. It’s all very Edith Wharton.

ugh, I think it's possible to say that many schools are full of kids who didn't go to high school games and probably won't go to a college football game

I went to a big football college and only went to basketball games.

Football is not the big giant attraction some of you think it is

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Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem, I think, is that many DCUM posters/mothers are so far removed from college -- they're typically in their 50s and not much younger -- that they can't remember what it's like to be young.

Sure, I wanted my kids to go to a reputable school and study. But I always wanted them to be happy, social, and to have a blast. When I read posts like "I love the quiet winter days of my remote SLAC" I'm like "what?? are you my grandmother??"

We're talking about kids, man! They have their whole lives ahead of them to be so damned serious. You people have lost your minds.

And all kids want exactly the same things all the time and conveniently, those are the things you think they all want.

Stop thinking as a grandma. Seriously, how old are you?

You mean your thinking isn’t as flexible as a grandma? Your brain is so calcified that you can only hold one idea of fun at a time?

+1. It's very strange thinking. People, including young people, find all kinds of things fun. It's weird to get bent out of shape about it. Lots of us had the chance to pick big state schools with lots of Greek life and big deal sports and didn't, at the age of 18, because we wanted something else. I'm not forgetting what it's like to be young, I remember deciding that wasn't for me when I was young. I've got no issue with people who did want that, but I didn't.

You decided it wasn't for you because it frightened you. But deep down you wanted it.

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Anonymous wrote:College is for learning.

You've missed the entire point of college, which is that you can experience excellent academics *and* great fun. The two are not mutually exclusive and it's so sad that you think otherwise.

NP it's also sad to think there's one "right" way to have fun. numbers in greek life is tanking. I like college basketball, but most kids never attend a college football game, even at "football" schools

PP here - not a proponent of Greek life. Some of you are really conflating Greek life with big, fun football schools. Many of our kids attend these schools and are not Greek. Most kids aren't.

As for your last sentence - what? That is such a bizarre and false claim.

NP there's data on this.

Great, post it then. We'll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem, I think, is that many DCUM posters/mothers are so far removed from college -- they're typically in their 50s and not much younger -- that they can't remember what it's like to be young.

Sure, I wanted my kids to go to a reputable school and study. But I always wanted them to be happy, social, and to have a blast. When I read posts like "I love the quiet winter days of my remote SLAC" I'm like "what?? are you my grandmother??"

We're talking about kids, man! They have their whole lives ahead of them to be so damned serious. You people have lost your minds.

Is it really not okay that not everyone wants the same thing? Does that offend you somehow?

Frats are really falling every year. Plenty of data saying kids dont want that anymore. And even at "football" schools most undergrads never go to a game.

But let's take ND as an exception. They do attend the games. I toured ND with one of my kids and the guide said he wasn't interested in study abroad bcs he didn't want to miss those 7 home games. And he couldn't do it spring semester in case of a bowl game.

I think that's a valid choice, and my kid didn't roll his eyes. But we didn't think that's the only "right" way to do college.

Can we stop talking about Notre Dame please? I know a lot more about it than you might think. For one thing, nearly 90 percent of the undergraduates study abroad, so you had yourself an outlier.

And how the hell do you know that "most" undergrads at big football schools "never" go to a game. Show your work.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/01/10/college-football-attendance-decline-ncaa

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/02/13/college-football-attendance-sees-second-largest-decline-in-history/

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/09/11/colleges-worry-about-future-football-fans-student-attendance-declines

https://surface.syr.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1061&context=sportmanagement

https://www.fromtherumbleseat.com/georgia-tech-football/2014/3/3/5464512/college-football-student-attendance-problem

https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2015/student-attendance-decline-correlated-with-lower-future-alumni-giving#:~:text=Research%20says%20YES!%20There%20is%20a%20direct,graduate%20lives%20and%20as%20they%20get%20older.

Really had to reach into that wayback machine for those links, huh? I'm sorry, but whatever narrative you're peddling does not currently apply.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem, I think, is that many DCUM posters/mothers are so far removed from college -- they're typically in their 50s and not much younger -- that they can't remember what it's like to be young.

Sure, I wanted my kids to go to a reputable school and study. But I always wanted them to be happy, social, and to have a blast. When I read posts like "I love the quiet winter days of my remote SLAC" I'm like "what?? are you my grandmother??"

We're talking about kids, man! They have their whole lives ahead of them to be so damned serious. You people have lost your minds.

Is it really not okay that not everyone wants the same thing? Does that offend you somehow?

Frats are really falling every year. Plenty of data saying kids dont want that anymore. And even at "football" schools most undergrads never go to a game.

But let's take ND as an exception. They do attend the games. I toured ND with one of my kids and the guide said he wasn't interested in study abroad bcs he didn't want to miss those 7 home games. And he couldn't do it spring semester in case of a bowl game.

I think that's a valid choice, and my kid didn't roll his eyes. But we didn't think that's the only "right" way to do college.

Can we stop talking about Notre Dame please? I know a lot more about it than you might think. For one thing, nearly 90 percent of the undergraduates study abroad, so you had yourself an outlier.

And how the hell do you know that "most" undergrads at big football schools "never" go to a game. Show your work.

NP that's because ND counts week-long programs in those stats. Not semester or year-length

I know a lot about ND, believe me. A very large percentage of its students study abroad for a semester or year. They don't all go to the football games either, btw. For one thing, tickets aren't free for them.

Can the two of you take your weird obsession with ND somewhere else?

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Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem, I think, is that many DCUM posters/mothers are so far removed from college -- they're typically in their 50s and not much younger -- that they can't remember what it's like to be young.

Sure, I wanted my kids to go to a reputable school and study. But I always wanted them to be happy, social, and to have a blast. When I read posts like "I love the quiet winter days of my remote SLAC" I'm like "what?? are you my grandmother??"

We're talking about kids, man! They have their whole lives ahead of them to be so damned serious. You people have lost your minds.

And all kids want exactly the same things all the time and conveniently, those are the things you think they all want.

Stop thinking as a grandma. Seriously, how old are you?

You mean your thinking isn’t as flexible as a grandma? Your brain is so calcified that you can only hold one idea of fun at a time?

+1. It's very strange thinking. People, including young people, find all kinds of things fun. It's weird to get bent out of shape about it. Lots of us had the chance to pick big state schools with lots of Greek life and big deal sports and didn't, at the age of 18, because we wanted something else. I'm not forgetting what it's like to be young, I remember deciding that wasn't for me when I was young. I've got no issue with people who did want that, but I didn't.

You decided it wasn't for you because it frightened you. But deep down you wanted it.

Not everyone who chooses to attend a big football school is a moron, but you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford kids have better things to do

https://www.reddit.com/r/StanfordCardinal/comments/1fx9wfm/stanford_footballs_attendance_against_virginia/

You know we can all read the comments, right? It was 100 degrees that day and no shade. I wouldn't have gone either.

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Take a look at the kids going to Stanford these days. Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:My kids were in private schools in NY and Friday Night Lights it aint. There were parties, no doubt, but they didn't involve a sports events. They all went to T10 schools and had lots of fun. I bet they've been to 2 college football games ever btw the three of them in their college years. One went to Yale and he said the Harvard-Yale game was the first non-pro football game almost all his friends had ever been to.

I think it's easy to conflate your own experience with what people want. But that's almost never the case.

I don't understand the point of your post other than you want us all to know your kids went to T10 schools?

She wants you to know that college football is beneath her. Had your children gone to the Correct Manhattan High School followed by the Correct University, they would have no interest in such plebeian pastimes. Therefore, even though she has no intention of sharing either her money or her status with you, she is urging you to make your own children feel ashamed of the things that bring them joy. It’s all very Edith Wharton.

So it’s ok for some kids to find joy in a quiet, snowy campus?