2024 JonBenet Documentary

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Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

The podcast goes into extensive detail as to why that theory of the crime makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

The podcast goes into extensive detail as to why that theory of the crime makes no sense.

And other documentaries push different theories. You can spin it any way you want to get viewers and listeners!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

I don't think where the body was found? People weren't tramping around in that out-of-the-way basement room. No physical evidence was found there. All the items belonged to the Ramseys and had Ramsey fibers on them. Plus the very odd retrieval of a blanket from the dryer to wrap up her wiped-down body. That's something a parent would do. No intruder would be going into the dryer.

And it defies reason to think that someone grabbed her from her bed and took her all the way down to that weird room. What does make sense is that she and Burke were up in the middle of the night, eating pineapple then playing and snooping into the wrapped presents in that room, and had a fight then a tragic accident or rage incident took place. Followed by the parents covering it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

The one thing in the Netflix doc that made me think it could have been an intruder who hid in wait is that the house was so big. 6K square feet or something with four floors. The parents were on the top floor, kind of removed from the kids and certainly from the kitchen and basement.

John Douglas, the FBI profiler, thought it was an intruder.

I have gone back and forth on all the scenarios.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

+1. I think the Ramsay’s did it.

A stranger sneaking in and doing this would be incredibly rare. Leaving no evidence after spending extended time in the home even more so. I don’t find anything about it realistic.

That said, anyone who feels they are 100% right about the case shouldn’t be because there is not enough evidence to be.

Unfortunately, barring a deathbed confession, there is no new evidence to be uncovered and I do not believe there will ever be an answer.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

+1. I think the Ramsay’s did it.

A stranger sneaking in and doing this would be incredibly rare. Leaving no evidence after spending extended time in the home even more so. I don’t find anything about it realistic.

That said, anyone who feels they are 100% right about the case shouldn’t be because there is not enough evidence to be.

Unfortunately, barring a deathbed confession, there is no new evidence to be uncovered and I do not believe there will ever be an answer.

A family brutalizing their daughter in this extreme way is incredibly rare. JB was a celebrity in her small town. Just the type to attract a certain type of predator capable of such a crime. The house was easily accessed. It’s plausible someone did this to her. More so than a little boy and parents in my mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

I don't think where the body was found? People weren't tramping around in that out-of-the-way basement room. No physical evidence was found there. All the items belonged to the Ramseys and had Ramsey fibers on them. Plus the very odd retrieval of a blanket from the dryer to wrap up her wiped-down body. That's something a parent would do. No intruder would be going into the dryer.

And it defies reason to think that someone grabbed her from her bed and took her all the way down to that weird room. What does make sense is that she and Burke were up in the middle of the night, eating pineapple then playing and snooping into the wrapped presents in that room, and had a fight then a tragic accident or rage incident took place. Followed by the parents covering it up.

But for the unidentivied male DNA on two different items of her clothing, so not from the manufacturer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

+1. I think the Ramsay’s did it.

A stranger sneaking in and doing this would be incredibly rare. Leaving no evidence after spending extended time in the home even more so. I don’t find anything about it realistic.

That said, anyone who feels they are 100% right about the case shouldn’t be because there is not enough evidence to be.

Unfortunately, barring a deathbed confession, there is no new evidence to be uncovered and I do not believe there will ever be an answer.

A family brutalizing their daughter in this extreme way is incredibly rare. JB was a celebrity in her small town. Just the type to attract a certain type of predator capable of such a crime. The house was easily accessed. It’s plausible someone did this to her. More so than a little boy and parents in my mind.

I mean, that’s not true though. If a child is assaulted or murdered it’s much more likely to be a family member than a stranger. parents and siblings have done horrific things to children.

Maybe it was a stranger, maybe it was an acquaintance, maybe it was a ghost. We will never know for sure unless someone confesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

+1. I think the Ramsay’s did it.

A stranger sneaking in and doing this would be incredibly rare. Leaving no evidence after spending extended time in the home even more so. I don’t find anything about it realistic.

That said, anyone who feels they are 100% right about the case shouldn’t be because there is not enough evidence to be.

Unfortunately, barring a deathbed confession, there is no new evidence to be uncovered and I do not believe there will ever be an answer.

A family brutalizing their daughter in this extreme way is incredibly rare. JB was a celebrity in her small town. Just the type to attract a certain type of predator capable of such a crime. The house was easily accessed. It’s plausible someone did this to her. More so than a little boy and parents in my mind.

I mean, that’s not true though. If a child is assaulted or murdered it’s much more likely to be a family member than a stranger. parents and siblings have done horrific things to children.

Maybe it was a stranger, maybe it was an acquaintance, maybe it was a ghost. We will never know for sure unless someone confesses.

A family member. But people keep trying to pin this on a 9 year old boy. Not a pervy uncle or pedo dad. That’s the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

+1. I think the Ramsay’s did it.

A stranger sneaking in and doing this would be incredibly rare. Leaving no evidence after spending extended time in the home even more so. I don’t find anything about it realistic.

That said, anyone who feels they are 100% right about the case shouldn’t be because there is not enough evidence to be.

Unfortunately, barring a deathbed confession, there is no new evidence to be uncovered and I do not believe there will ever be an answer.

A family brutalizing their daughter in this extreme way is incredibly rare. JB was a celebrity in her small town. Just the type to attract a certain type of predator capable of such a crime. The house was easily accessed. It’s plausible someone did this to her. More so than a little boy and parents in my mind.

I mean, that’s not true though. If a child is assaulted or murdered it’s much more likely to be a family member than a stranger. parents and siblings have done horrific things to children.

Maybe it was a stranger, maybe it was an acquaintance, maybe it was a ghost. We will never know for sure unless someone confesses.

A family member. But people keep trying to pin this on a 9 year old boy. Not a pervy uncle or pedo dad. That’s the difference.

Actually quite a lot of people think it’s the dad.

[Anonymous]

I've always been stuck on the ransom note and the assumption that Patsy wrote it. I'd like to see an updated analysis of that piece of evidence. Because if she didn't write the note, I don't think there is any meaningful evidence of a coverup.

For a long time, I thought Burke accidentally killed her followed by a coverup. But I don't think a skinny 9 year old boy could have crushed her skull like that. I think a lot was pinned on him because of untrue or unsubstantiated rumors (feces) and his unusual affect (on autism spectrum). When I look at clips of him now, I just think sweet, clueless little boy who doesn't really grasp what's going on.

Hard to imagine an intruder coming with no equipment, navigating that house in the dark, and leaving no real DNA or fiber evidence (presuming the trace DNA is from the manufacturing process) either.

So, I don't know. And I doubt we ever will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've always been stuck on the ransom note and the assumption that Patsy wrote it. I'd like to see an updated analysis of that piece of evidence. Because if she didn't write the note, I don't think there is any meaningful evidence of a coverup.

For a long time, I thought Burke accidentally killed her followed by a coverup. But I don't think a skinny 9 year old boy could have crushed her skull like that. I think a lot was pinned on him because of untrue or unsubstantiated rumors (feces) and his unusual affect (on autism spectrum). When I look at clips of him now, I just think sweet, clueless little boy who doesn't really grasp what's going on.

Hard to imagine an intruder coming with no equipment, navigating that house in the dark, and leaving no real DNA or fiber evidence (presuming the trace DNA is from the manufacturing process) either.

So, I don't know. And I doubt we ever will.

The broken paintbrush is weird too. Could a nine year old have broken it into three pieces? That seems unlikely to me. I don't think my skinny 6ft tall son could do that, much less a skinny 9 yo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok thanks to whoever recommended The Consult podcast . They are pretty convinced it was a sadistic intruder.

The 30 keys given out to various contractors and the fact that not all doors and windows were locked shows plenty of opportunity for an intruder.

Yet no evidence of an intruder in the house, and strong evidence of a coverup by the family.

No evidence? Multiple people were in and of that house over those days. There’s no way they did a clean sweep and identified every finger print, hair, clothing fiber, etc. There’s no evidence because they didn’t even look.

Of course they looked! And the evidence just wasn’t there. Everything points towards it being a family member. Everything. Except it can’t be proven which one, so, it will never be solved.

No, it really doesn’t. The police botched the crime scene. That’s the whole problem.

I don't think where the body was found? People weren't tramping around in that out-of-the-way basement room. No physical evidence was found there. All the items belonged to the Ramseys and had Ramsey fibers on them. Plus the very odd retrieval of a blanket from the dryer to wrap up her wiped-down body. That's something a parent would do. No intruder would be going into the dryer.

And it defies reason to think that someone grabbed her from her bed and took her all the way down to that weird room. What does make sense is that she and Burke were up in the middle of the night, eating pineapple then playing and snooping into the wrapped presents in that room, and had a fight then a tragic accident or rage incident took place. Followed by the parents covering it up.

People were in and out of the room where the body was found. Both a police officer and Fleet White went to the room before the dad did but couldn’t find a light so didn’t go in. Fleet White went back to the room after her body was found and handled the tape that had been over her mouth.

(Not relevant to this question but to everyone who says it has to be the dad because only he would know to go to that obscure room — Fleet White went there within 10 minutes of being at the house that morning. He was searching the basement because he thought she might be hiding rather than kidnapped. Which doesn’t totally make sense if there’s a ransom note, but whatever.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've always been stuck on the ransom note and the assumption that Patsy wrote it. I'd like to see an updated analysis of that piece of evidence. Because if she didn't write the note, I don't think there is any meaningful evidence of a coverup.

For a long time, I thought Burke accidentally killed her followed by a coverup. But I don't think a skinny 9 year old boy could have crushed her skull like that. I think a lot was pinned on him because of untrue or unsubstantiated rumors (feces) and his unusual affect (on autism spectrum). When I look at clips of him now, I just think sweet, clueless little boy who doesn't really grasp what's going on.

Hard to imagine an intruder coming with no equipment, navigating that house in the dark, and leaving no real DNA or fiber evidence (presuming the trace DNA is from the manufacturing process) either.

So, I don't know. And I doubt we ever will.

No credible person thinks the DNA is from the manufacturing process. It might not be from the murderer, but it’s DNA from a Caucasian male. The underwear were made at a factory in China. The Boulder police just said it was from the manufacturing process when they were trying to massage the facts to make them line up with it being the family.