Fight btw BCC & WJ students after game @ 8:30 Friday night

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Stop with the blame game. These kids very well could have involved fathers. There is no excuse for kids to behave like this and regardless of their home situation, it was clear they were up to no good dressed in all black with hoods over their face. This is an epic parenting failure. And, probably not the first time these kids behaved like this.

I’d bet a few million dollars that the perpetrators were not well behaved at school either!

Of course not. They’ve been doing what they want for years without limits.

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Anonymous wrote:BCC parent here. There need to be consequences/punishment for all involved, regardless of school or race. AND there needs to be help for these kids who have so much anger and aggression. Expelling them from school and putting him in jail isn’t going to solve the problem, as they’ll just continue the cycle of aggression/arrest when they come out. Black or white, these kids clearly need help.

Actually, expelling him from school will keep the other kids safe, and putting him in jail will keep the community safe from him. I believe that does in fact “solve” the problem.

As long kids don’t just get shuffled from MCPS school to school.

The only option is to shuffle them. The school just for kids with severe behavioral issues (Twain) was shut down years ago.

The Damascuc locker room rape ringleader was on his third high school by that point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Stop with the blame game. These kids very well could have involved fathers. There is no excuse for kids to behave like this and regardless of their home situation, it was clear they were up to no good dressed in all black with hoods over their face. This is an epic parenting failure. And, probably not the first time these kids behaved like this.

What I said is an actual fact. How exactly can boys become decent men when their home life is mayhem, and there’s no role model at home?

Ideal is two parents involved but one strong parent can accomplish good kids as well. You can have a two parent home that equally fails a child. They behave like that as they are allowed by their parents and there is no structure or consequences at home. Even if MCPS doesn't give consequences at school, if you know your child did something, you punish them at home. And, if they got punished at school, they get punished at home too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Stop with the blame game. These kids very well could have involved fathers. There is no excuse for kids to behave like this and regardless of their home situation, it was clear they were up to no good dressed in all black with hoods over their face. This is an epic parenting failure. And, probably not the first time these kids behaved like this.

What I said is an actual fact. How exactly can boys become decent men when their home life is mayhem, and there’s no role model at home?

You have no idea about anybody involved, but don't let that stop you from riding your hobby horse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go to the source. Look at any blockbuster movie it’s filled with fighting. You become what you consume. Normalizing gun culture. And the people involved as heroes… What are you expect! This is a huge influence. Now combine it with TikTok, impulsivity control, and bad parenting situations.

My 80 year old father watched plenty of John Wayne country westerns when he was a kid. No lack of shooting and plenty of violence. Those western movies were really popular.

Yet school violence simply wasn't like that back then compared to now.

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Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that the parents of the victims intend to pursue getting the perpetrators charged.

Great. My kids go to BCC and I hope they kick the kids far out.

Won't happen. Occurred off school grounds. If they were part of a sports team ,they can be kicked off that (since it's optional and they can make them agree to other rules), but what you do outside of school is not grounds for kicking you out of school.

Which is a good thing, lest schools start kicking out goods for attending a political rally on some "controversial" topic.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at the game and security seemed very good. Student fans were in dedicated sections at opposite ends of the stadium. WJ student fans left just before game ended, and BCC student fans asked to stay after for 15 mins and performance of (terrific) student dance group. Plenty of security on site.

I disagree and was also at the game. I left slightly early along with many kids. It was pretty clear that MoCo needed much more police presence on the street by that point.

Not enough police anymore to provide necessary security.

My child was at the game and hanging out in Bethesdalast night. She said there were tons of police officers everywhere around Bethesda Row. The problem here isn’t a lack of officers but perhaps too many on the Bethesda Row side and not enough by the metro, where there have been fights before.

They were dealing with a robbery over there around the same time. The problem isn’t the police. It’s the kids.

Which store was robbed?

A person got robbed of their bike.

There is nothing about this on District 2 (Bethesda) dispatch radio. There was, however, a call for units at 8:35 pm to be aware that the BCC game was letting out. Then the first call about the assault was at 8:38 pm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that the parents of the victims intend to pursue getting the perpetrators charged.

Great. My kids go to BCC and I hope they kick the kids far out.

Won't happen. Occurred off school grounds. If they were part of a sports team ,they can be kicked off that (since it's optional and they can make them agree to other rules), but what you do outside of school is not grounds for kicking you out of school.

Which is a good thing, lest schools start kicking out goods for attending a political rally on some "controversial" topic.

You're okay with a kid who repeatedly kicks another person in the head to attend school with regular students? That perpetrator is violent, aggressive, and lacking empathy for others. He/She should be sent to another setting that addresses kids with these types of emotional/behavioral issues or expelled (if a school system lacks the appropriate setting).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Careful. Bitter, single mom posters on DCUM attack you when you say things like this and insist that fathers are a vital and essential part of raising healthy, stable, productive children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that the parents of the victims intend to pursue getting the perpetrators charged.

Great. My kids go to BCC and I hope they kick the kids far out.

Won't happen. Occurred off school grounds. If they were part of a sports team ,they can be kicked off that (since it's optional and they can make them agree to other rules), but what you do outside of school is not grounds for kicking you out of school.

Which is a good thing, lest schools start kicking out goods for attending a political rally on some "controversial" topic.

The principals letter made it clear that students will face discipline for their behavior in accordance with MCPS’s “code of conduct” so it does sound like they will face some kind of consequence, even if it’s not expulsion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Kids who grow up with parents who are judgmental, angry and like to criticize other families tend to do very poorly when they grow up. I feel so bad for kids who have parents like the one above, they are going to grow up so messed up. It's really sad that they don't have a loving mother who demonstrates respect for other people and understanding of different circumstances.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Careful. Bitter, single mom posters on DCUM attack you when you say things like this and insist that fathers are a vital and essential part of raising healthy, stable, productive children.

Dads are important, especially when there are divorce situations where Dad's are shut out of the kids lives (or Mom's) but this is not the issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every WJ/BCC basketball and football game. Just means they'll impose more restrictions going forward.

It's just another strong indicator of MCPS decline when students at these schools act like gang members.

Or students of those schools. What dog-whistle is Gang Members in this context?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Kids who grow up with parents who are judgmental, angry and like to criticize other families tend to do very poorly when they grow up. I feel so bad for kids who have parents like the one above, they are going to grow up so messed up. It's really sad that they don't have a loving mother who demonstrates respect for other people and understanding of different circumstances.

This is a parenting issue regardless of the home situation. There were at least a dozen, if not more kids involved and given that there would be multiple family situations, all of which the parents failed to supervise and discipline their kids. MCPS should require parents to attend the football games or at least require the parents to pick them up if the kids cannot act responsibly. These incidents are happening far to frequently and if they are off MCPS property, MCPS cannot be blamed and parents need to be held accountable for their kids behaviors.