Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

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Definitely replace Wake and UF, with BC and Gatech

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Anonymous wrote:Too many people on this thread are lumping in Big 3 with other schools. It is not the same. The top kids at Big 3 get into Ivy, UCB, Stanford, Chicago. They are not Quince Orchard, Robinson or St. Johns.

But that's not OP's question - where do the "B" average Big-3 kids go?

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many people on this thread are lumping in Big 3 with other schools. It is not the same. The top kids at Big 3 get into Ivy, UCB, Stanford, Chicago. They are not Quince Orchard, Robinson or St. Johns.

But that's not OP's question - where do the "B" average Big-3 kids go?

Tulane, Bucknell, lower tier slacs. The

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

Hahaha. Nice try

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

Same here. The Tulane students can be B/C. The Wake kids have higher grades.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

Tulane has higher test scores before it became test optional. In fact despite being test optional for decades Wake still had lower test scores. Combine that with the very high acceptance rate. Wake booster were just trying to equate it to Emory just a second ago, thats how delusional you guys are.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

Tulane has higher test scores before it became test optional. In fact despite being test optional for decades Wake still had lower test scores. Combine that with the very high acceptance rate. Wake booster were just trying to equate it to Emory just a second ago, thats how delusional you guys are.

Emory is ranked 22 and Wake 29 so not that crazy, the Emory booster is claiming they are the same as Vandy, which is ranked 11 spots ahead. But what was actually said is that Wake has been very hot the past two years while Emory apps are constant, and one can conclude that Wake is gaining ground.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

Tulane has higher test scores before it became test optional. In fact despite being test optional for decades Wake still had lower test scores. Combine that with the very high acceptance rate. Wake booster were just trying to equate it to Emory just a second ago, thats how delusional you guys are.

Emory is ranked 22 and Wake 29 so not that crazy, the Emory booster is claiming they are the same as Vandy, which is ranked 11 spots ahead. But what was actually said is that Wake has been very hot the past two years while Emory apps are constant, and one can conclude that Wake is gaining ground.

The gap between Emory is Wake is more than what Usnews indicates. Look at their global ranking. Its much easier to increase you applications when you only receive 17,000 vs Emorys 30,000+. And Wake is declining where it matters most, the rankings, you admitted that. So I don't know what "ground" you're talking about. Also Vandy is 9 spots ahead on USnews.

Usnews
Vandy-13
Emory-22
Wake-29

USnews Global
Emory-72
Vandy-78
Wake- 464

WSJ/Times
Vandy- 15
Emory- 20
Wake-64

QS us ranking
Emory-22
Vandy-28
Wake- 85

See why I'm confused as to why Wake is ranked so high on USnews? Because that's its only high ranking. It doesn't make sense. Emory and Vandy are ranked near each other on close to all rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

Tulane has higher test scores before it became test optional. In fact despite being test optional for decades Wake still had lower test scores. Combine that with the very high acceptance rate. Wake booster were just trying to equate it to Emory just a second ago, thats how delusional you guys are.

Emory is ranked 22 and Wake 29 so not that crazy, the Emory booster is claiming they are the same as Vandy, which is ranked 11 spots ahead. But what was actually said is that Wake has been very hot the past two years while Emory apps are constant, and one can conclude that Wake is gaining ground.

The gap between Emory is Wake is more than what Usnews indicates. Look at their global ranking. Its much easier to increase you applications when you only receive 17,000 vs Emorys 30,000+. And Wake is declining where it matters most, the rankings, you admitted that. So I don't know what "ground" you're talking about. Also Vandy is 9 spots ahead on USnews.

Usnews
Vandy-13
Emory-22
Wake-29

USnews Global
Emory-72
Vandy-78
Wake- 464

WSJ/Times
Vandy- 15
Emory- 20
Wake-64

QS us ranking
Emory-22
Vandy-28
Wake- 85

See why I'm confused as to why Wake is ranked so high on USnews? Because that's its only high ranking. It doesn't make sense. Emory and Vandy are ranked near each other on close to all rankings.

+1 Thank you pp. DCUers always become silent when you give them facts for their feelings. Wake is very much overrated by us news compared to other much more popular schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

Tulane has higher test scores before it became test optional. In fact despite being test optional for decades Wake still had lower test scores. Combine that with the very high acceptance rate. Wake booster were just trying to equate it to Emory just a second ago, thats how delusional you guys are.

Emory is ranked 22 and Wake 29 so not that crazy, the Emory booster is claiming they are the same as Vandy, which is ranked 11 spots ahead. But what was actually said is that Wake has been very hot the past two years while Emory apps are constant, and one can conclude that Wake is gaining ground.

The gap between Emory is Wake is more than what Usnews indicates. Look at their global ranking. Its much easier to increase you applications when you only receive 17,000 vs Emorys 30,000+. And Wake is declining where it matters most, the rankings, you admitted that. So I don't know what "ground" you're talking about. Also Vandy is 9 spots ahead on USnews.

Usnews
Vandy-13
Emory-22
Wake-29

USnews Global
Emory-72
Vandy-78
Wake- 464

WSJ/Times
Vandy- 15
Emory- 20
Wake-64

QS us ranking
Emory-22
Vandy-28
Wake- 85

See why I'm confused as to why Wake is ranked so high on USnews? Because that's its only high ranking. It doesn't make sense. Emory and Vandy are ranked near each other on close to all rankings.

+1 Thank you pp. DCUers always become silent when you give them facts for their feelings. Wake is very much overrated by us news compared to other much more popular schools.

The other rankings heavily weight research productivity in grants, which a school like Wake doesn't emphasize.

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

+1 Tulane is not a harder admit than Wake. It may be more popular, but it tends to take lower ranked academic kids. Of which there are many who apply.

Tulane has higher test scores before it became test optional. In fact despite being test optional for decades Wake still had lower test scores. Combine that with the very high acceptance rate. Wake booster were just trying to equate it to Emory just a second ago, thats how delusional you guys are.

Emory is ranked 22 and Wake 29 so not that crazy, the Emory booster is claiming they are the same as Vandy, which is ranked 11 spots ahead. But what was actually said is that Wake has been very hot the past two years while Emory apps are constant, and one can conclude that Wake is gaining ground.

The gap between Emory is Wake is more than what Usnews indicates. Look at their global ranking. Its much easier to increase you applications when you only receive 17,000 vs Emorys 30,000+. And Wake is declining where it matters most, the rankings, you admitted that. So I don't know what "ground" you're talking about. Also Vandy is 9 spots ahead on USnews.

Usnews
Vandy-13
Emory-22
Wake-29

USnews Global
Emory-72
Vandy-78
Wake- 464

WSJ/Times
Vandy- 15
Emory- 20
Wake-64

QS us ranking
Emory-22
Vandy-28
Wake- 85

See why I'm confused as to why Wake is ranked so high on USnews? Because that's its only high ranking. It doesn't make sense. Emory and Vandy are ranked near each other on close to all rankings.

+1 Thank you pp. DCUers always become silent when you give them facts for their feelings. Wake is very much overrated by us news compared to other much more popular schools.

The other rankings heavily weight research productivity in grants, which a school like Wake doesn't emphasize.

WSJ is not a research ranking, it's similar to USnews

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Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

Hamilton is a bit more selective but not by much. The southern former
Regional/mid tier schools have gotten much more competitive over the last few decades. Wake, Tulane, Emory - even Vanderbilt; all had very very modest admission standards back in my day. Not anymore.

I suggest you look at actual data. ALL those schools are much more selective than they used to be but Emory and Vanderbilt (especially Vanderbilt) are significantly more difficult to get into than Wake or Tulane. Hamilton also used to be easier to get into and is not more selective. Hard to compare SLACS to universities, but I would never if a kid can get into Wake they can get into Hamilton.

Vandy is a far more competitive admit than Emory, which has a relatively high ED admit rate. Emory is more competitive than Wake, but Wake had had a bigger increase in apps over past two years and catching up,
. Tulane is easier admit than Wake.

If you apply early to Wake, they will admit same students getting admitted to Tulane early. No way Wake is harder admit.

Unfortunately, this is simply not true. First hand experience.

Tulane is a harder admit than Wake. Wake students typically have higher gpas but that's it. Tulane students have higher test scores, and a VASTLY lower acceptance rate.

What can I tell you, at our private, the student Tulane takes is from a lower tier of the class than the students Wake takes and it has been that way for a while.

Same here. The Tulane students can be B/C. The Wake kids have higher grades.

Not at our Big3. Similar level students going to these schools.