If you eat super processed foods then your experience is going to be bad. Stop doing that. Problem solved.
Nobody wants to do that. So they have on going weight problems. Duh. |
But I eat no bread and no flour and am still fat. I think the culprit is probably a plastic that’s rare in Europe and common here, and that affects some people a lot more than it affects others. |
Here, for example is a paper about the relationship between microplastic beads and obesity: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35093814/ Maybe Americans tend to have more exposure to microplastics than people in Europe do. |
OP here. You probably missed this rest of the thread, but on the face of it my diet in the US is healthier than when I am in Europe. |
Perhaps but this doesn’t seem like it could cause someone to lose weight over a one or two week vacation. |
Maybe but to me, there is such a stark difference between how people in Europe and America east and live. Way more people here live a car centric lifestyle and eat larger portions of processed foods. When I go to eat at a restaurant in middle America most people are overweight. Then I look at what they are eating and it’s not remotely surprising they are overweight.
Point is that I don’t think there is any conspiracy or secret cause of weight gain in America. |
Maybe eat more normal but not processed foods? Perhaps the “healthier” food you’re in eating isn’t actually healthier for you? Consider carbs and fat. There have been some interesting UK studies recently about the effects of protein on hormones for women. Maybe you’re eating more protein because of more restaurant meals in Europe? If you’re truly losing weight and having less inflammation during a one or two week vacation then what you’re eating at home isn’t working for you! |
OP. I think you probably missed a few posts, it has been a long thread. I go to Europe regularly for work and family. Sometimes I stay a week or two, sometimes a month or more at a time. When I’m there longer, I lose more. But even after a week, I notice the difference in stiffness and the feeling of being bloated when I return. I did a comparison of what I eat from my food logs on p. 10 of this thread. My regular go-to meals in the US are things like salmon with veggies/rice, tofu stir fry with rice, grilled meats, hummus with pita/fresh veggies, etc. Sometimes homemade chilis with beans, ground turkey, and tomatoes. Another meal we make is a sesame chicken cabbage salad. We don’t eat at restaurants all that often, and almost never fast food. I mean it’s not perfect but I don’t think it’s that bad either. In comparison I eat much more restaurant food in Europe. I definitely drink more. I have chocolate croissants at breakfast multiple times a week. I have to buy more processed food because I’m traveling. On the face of it, my diet in Europe is worse not better. But yet I feel better there. PP who put the link to the micro plastics, thank you. That is fascinating. I also read the whole Twitter thread above that I linked and a lot of people have similar experiences. At least it’s not just me. It drives me crazy! |
No, I didn’t miss any posts. What you’re saying is that you eat differently in Europe and lose weight while you’re there, right? Seems to me you need to eat more like you do in Europe here before assuming it’s something like…plastics. I know it seems like you shouldn’t be experiencing this in the US since you eat so healthy and no chocolate croissants. It seems like you should consider adopting more what you’ve been eating in Europe first. I think you need to be more open to the fact that you ARE eating differently in Europe while you’re there. |
This is a rather low fat diet. Also a lot of carbs. Hummus has huge amounts of sodium as does a stir fry. Sounds like you need to make sure to get a lot of exercise and start eating chocolate croissants and whatever else you were eating in Europe. Your diet here isn’t working for you. |
I was in Europe for 9 weeks during the summer and ended up losing 19 lbs. When I returned to DC, my co-workers were asking me what I had done because my face looked different younger and firmer. Fast forward 8 weeks and I have managed to gain 7 lbs on homemade soup/salad diet. I have eliminated rice, bread and most carbs except for cracked wheat in Tabbouleh and some fruit. My co-workers say my face looks puffy again. My feet are swollen too. Maybe it’s the food, maybe it’s the climate, maybe it’s work related stress. I have 4 more years before being eligible for retirement and looking forward to staying overseas for a total transformation to look and feel much younger and more vibrant. |
I definitely suspect walking/exercise may be part of it too. |
Psychosomatic. |
I’m a trainer and nutritionist. In my experience, it’s sugar. Not carbs. Not red meat. Not additives. Just too much sugar in nearly everything we consume. Sugar substitutes are even worse. |
Really? They also smoke. A lot. Have you been to the Uk? No they don't look better, in fact age pretty rapidly. Scotland is the heart attack capital of the world. Just stop. It's not gmos, not gluten. Stop. It's your own diet choices. |