Liberal policing and policies in San Francisco

Anonymous
Detroit was the richest city in the US and probably the world in the 1950s. In case you’re wondering how far San Francisco can fall, look there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You know it's bad when the progressive mayor starts changing her tune.....



It is not “BS”, as she said. It’s progress. It is planned out, and carefully implemented by progressive, elected, District Attorneys, just like the ones in:

- Fairfax County
- Philadelphia
- Chicago, and many others.

One person PAID for all of their political campaigns. One person.

This crime wave is not coincidental. It is the direct result of the election of progressive DAs who all share the same vision.
Anonymous
Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.
Anonymous
^^^republicans? Seriously?

Maybe you missed your own mayor characterizing the SF crime wave as “BS” ?

Fairly certain the mayor and Chesa Boudin, the DA, are both. . . . wait for it . . .

democrats.
Anonymous
Go right on tilting at windmills and blaming republicans.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Go right on tilting at windmills and blaming republicans.



Right? It’s like the violin players on the titanic.

Deflect. Deflect. Deflect.

Your social justice criminal justice reform policies do more harm than good. You should abandon them.

I live in DC and we bend over backwards out of misguided equity goals not to arrest and prosecute all in the face of a 30% rise in murder and massive rise in other crime. All the youth rehab act, the not doing anything about the motorcycle crews or 12’ o’clock boys or whatever the fk they are called, the teens mugging people and the car jacking rise. Noooo we simply hire “violence interruptors” proven in studies to be ineffective, at a cost of $10m, or restorative justice, and then we have city councils members who are just anti police because of the defund movement.

Then look at California and retail theft mobs.

Bbbb bbbut the stats show crime is down!!!!! No they don’t. They all show crime is up. Midterms are going to be something with this progressive policing nonsense in voters minds.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?
Anonymous
Someone needs to help Nancy understand.

Maybe it's because prisons released tens of thousands of prisoners during the pandemic - for their protection - but really didn't care about the safety or protection of law-abiding citizens.
Or, maybe it's because of the liberal prosecutors around the nation who choose not to prosecute crimes - many of them violent - so these criminals know there are no real ramifications for their violence and lawlessness.
Or, maybe it's because localities around the nation have chosen to defund the police thereby having fewer officers on the streets to enforce the law and have informants to help them solve these crimes.

Choose any one, or all of the above, Nancy.


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



Um, you seriously do not believe Chesa is any different? That his “politics” do not matter??

Do you know anything of his past?

Read this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin

After reading it, come back and try telling us (with a straight face) he is just another run of the mill prosecutor.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.
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