Biden's VP?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. Where did I push the progressive agenda? I merely pointed out that if you look at EVERYTHINGGGGGGG the GOP has done in the last three and a half years INCLUDING basically bankrupting the US, but with a delayed action so we won’t actually realize the full extent of the damage for a while, and you still scratch your butt, mumble “BUH BOTH SIDES” and accuse me of being the problem, I stand by my statement: “You’re not a left leaning anything if you think that anyone in the Democratic Party will cost the US more than the GOP.“ Literally nothing in your screed addresses that.

It’s vote blue no matter what if you still want an America.


By categorizing anyone who won't vote for a ticket with a Progressive on it as not left leaning, you are contributing to the problem of casting the world in black and white. People can be left leaning and not want a progressive agenda. People can be left leaning moderate and not want to support a progressive candidate. There are millions like this.

I'm not saying "but both sides". I'm saying that we need a moderate ticket to heal and repair the problems. I'm saying that right now, the country cannot afford a progressive agenda. And I'm saying that putting a progressive on the ticket is likely to cost Biden the swing states and the moderate voters that he needs to win the election. Biden has the popularity to win. As long as he doesn't select a candidate that will capsize his boat. Warren is the most likely to do that. Bass could possibly do that, but the jury is out because like me, much of the country, especially in those critical swing states, doesn't know enough about her. Biden has many good choices for VP that will not stop his momentum. He needs to pick one of those.

Strong disagree with your entire premise. Biden is a centrist. If people can’t get on board with Biden/Whoever because of alleged extremism, after watching the GOP co-sign a secret federal police force, giving away billions to billionaires and foreign-owned businesses, support treason, abandon checks and balances, etc etc etc etc, you’re not left leaning. You’re just not, that’s a fact.

I’m sorry that you’re uncomfortable with where we are, but this is not a normal election. America hangs in the balance.


You're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to be wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. Where did I push the progressive agenda? I merely pointed out that if you look at EVERYTHINGGGGGGG the GOP has done in the last three and a half years INCLUDING basically bankrupting the US, but with a delayed action so we won’t actually realize the full extent of the damage for a while, and you still scratch your butt, mumble “BUH BOTH SIDES” and accuse me of being the problem, I stand by my statement: “You’re not a left leaning anything if you think that anyone in the Democratic Party will cost the US more than the GOP.“ Literally nothing in your screed addresses that.

It’s vote blue no matter what if you still want an America.


By categorizing anyone who won't vote for a ticket with a Progressive on it as not left leaning, you are contributing to the problem of casting the world in black and white. People can be left leaning and not want a progressive agenda. People can be left leaning moderate and not want to support a progressive candidate. There are millions like this.

I'm not saying "but both sides". I'm saying that we need a moderate ticket to heal and repair the problems. I'm saying that right now, the country cannot afford a progressive agenda. And I'm saying that putting a progressive on the ticket is likely to cost Biden the swing states and the moderate voters that he needs to win the election. Biden has the popularity to win. As long as he doesn't select a candidate that will capsize his boat. Warren is the most likely to do that. Bass could possibly do that, but the jury is out because like me, much of the country, especially in those critical swing states, doesn't know enough about her. Biden has many good choices for VP that will not stop his momentum. He needs to pick one of those.

Strong disagree with your entire premise. Biden is a centrist. If people can’t get on board with Biden/Whoever because of alleged extremism, after watching the GOP co-sign a secret federal police force, giving away billions to billionaires and foreign-owned businesses, support treason, abandon checks and balances, etc etc etc etc, you’re not left leaning. You’re just not, that’s a fact.

I’m sorry that you’re uncomfortable with where we are, but this is not a normal election. America hangs in the balance.



+1000
Anonymous
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/quiz-biden-vice-president-pick/

Take the quiz!

I got Baldwin, somewhat mysteriously.
Anonymous
Shouldn’t he have picked and announced by now? Seems like it is getting pretty late into the year to now know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/quiz-biden-vice-president-pick/

Take the quiz!

I got Baldwin, somewhat mysteriously.


Heh, I got Harris. I'm good with that!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?
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She could help with AA turnout in some swing states, eg Pennsylvania and Michigan. But any of the Black prospects would do that, with the possible exception of Rice. Anyway she lost me with her horrible campaign. Just because she’s experienced doesn’t mean she’s any good at it. I would like to see her step out if the spotlight put her head down and do the work for the next four years to develop policy expertise and become an effective legislator (or AG if that’s her path). Tired of celebrity politicians who are more show than substance.


I feel similarly
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?
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She could help with AA turnout in some swing states, eg Pennsylvania and Michigan. But any of the Black prospects would do that, with the possible exception of Rice. Anyway she lost me with her horrible campaign. Just because she’s experienced doesn’t mean she’s any good at it. I would like to see her step out if the spotlight put her head down and do the work for the next four years to develop policy expertise and become an effective legislator (or AG if that’s her path). Tired of celebrity politicians who are more show than substance.


Sure. Please vote for Trump.


I feel similarly to the pp but I would never ever, ever ever, ever ever do that. Not in this lifetime. And under the assumption his forthcoming karma, not the next.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?


Have you been looking at the polling in swing states? Biden doesn’t need a huge amount of help.

The following swing states have enough polling to compute a 538 polling average:

Florida: Biden +6
Michigan: Biden +8
Ohio: Trump +0.4
Pennsylvania: Biden + 7
Wisconsin: Biden +7

A surprise swing state: Texas: Biden +0.7

And don’t talk to me about Clinton because she did not have those polling numbers in July 2016.


Biden’s brilliant campaign strategy is to let Trump and the GOP do all the campaigning for him. I think there are more silent voters not interested in arguing their position of support for Biden than there are silent Trump voters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/quiz-biden-vice-president-pick/

Take the quiz!

I got Baldwin, somewhat mysteriously.


I got a four way tie between Harris, Baldwin, Duckworth and Grisham.

I think it's because I am pretty sold on his pick having held a statewide office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?


Have you been looking at the polling in swing states? Biden doesn’t need a huge amount of help.

The following swing states have enough polling to compute a 538 polling average:

Florida: Biden +6
Michigan: Biden +8
Ohio: Trump +0.4
Pennsylvania: Biden + 7
Wisconsin: Biden +7

A surprise swing state: Texas: Biden +0.7

And don’t talk to me about Clinton because she did not have those polling numbers in July 2016.


Biden’s brilliant campaign strategy is to let Trump and the GOP do all the campaigning for him. I think there are more silent voters not interested in arguing their position of support for Biden than there are silent Trump voters.


Are they evenly distributed geographically?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?


Have you been looking at the polling in swing states? Biden doesn’t need a huge amount of help.

The following swing states have enough polling to compute a 538 polling average:

Florida: Biden +6
Michigan: Biden +8
Ohio: Trump +0.4
Pennsylvania: Biden + 7
Wisconsin: Biden +7

A surprise swing state: Texas: Biden +0.7

And don’t talk to me about Clinton because she did not have those polling numbers in July 2016.


Biden’s brilliant campaign strategy is to let Trump and the GOP do all the campaigning for him. I think there are more silent voters not interested in arguing their position of support for Biden than there are silent Trump voters.

I think there’s a very good chance you’re right. There were a lot of Trumpenvoters in 2016 who didn’t necessarily agree with him or even like him but thought, hey what the hey, I’ve been told Washington never works, maybe this outsider can fix things. He hasn’t fixed things. No one except billionaires are better off now than they were four years ago and the country’s standing is in ruins, pandemic, for a lot of white people George Floyd’s murder was a real wake up call as to what threats Black people face...

I don’t think these people are going to brag about switching their Presidential vote from R to D, but they’re out there. They’re just not going to tell their in-your-face Trumper friends and neighbors the truth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?


Have you been looking at the polling in swing states? Biden doesn’t need a huge amount of help.

The following swing states have enough polling to compute a 538 polling average:

Florida: Biden +6
Michigan: Biden +8
Ohio: Trump +0.4
Pennsylvania: Biden + 7
Wisconsin: Biden +7

A surprise swing state: Texas: Biden +0.7

And don’t talk to me about Clinton because she did not have those polling numbers in July 2016.


Biden’s brilliant campaign strategy is to let Trump and the GOP do all the campaigning for him. I think there are more silent voters not interested in arguing their position of support for Biden than there are silent Trump voters.


Are they evenly distributed geographically?


Who is they? Please clarify.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will choosing Harris help in swing states again?


Have you been looking at the polling in swing states? Biden doesn’t need a huge amount of help.

The following swing states have enough polling to compute a 538 polling average:

Florida: Biden +6
Michigan: Biden +8
Ohio: Trump +0.4
Pennsylvania: Biden + 7
Wisconsin: Biden +7

A surprise swing state: Texas: Biden +0.7

And don’t talk to me about Clinton because she did not have those polling numbers in July 2016.


Biden’s brilliant campaign strategy is to let Trump and the GOP do all the campaigning for him. I think there are more silent voters not interested in arguing their position of support for Biden than there are silent Trump voters.


Are they evenly distributed geographically?


Who is they? Please clarify.


The silent Biden voters. Also, the silent Trump voters.

Strangely, I almost never see analysis that recognizes how geographically concentrated HRC’s vote was. The current obsession with natural aggregates misses how important broader geographic support is to defeating Trump.
Anonymous
Susan Rice was on the view earlier today.While I don't think she would be the best VP pick, she is brilliant and would be a great secretary of state.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Susan Rice was on the view earlier today.While I don't think she would be the best VP pick, she is brilliant and would be a great secretary of state.


The only way she makes Secretary of State is if the Senate is controlled by Democrats. She got axed already by taking one for the team (ie HRC) at Obama’s request on Benghazi. Biden knows her chances are slim if the senate doesn’t go democratic and I am sure he remembers her loyalty.
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