Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Someone is moving.

Dr. Reid told tge group towards the end that map 3 changes will be returning in map 4.

Did she mean specifically for the WSHS stuff you all are talking about, or in general? Could you tell based on wording? Just wondering because a change affecting my kids was in map 3 but went away in map 4.

Since she was talking to the Sangster parents, I assume she meant the map 3 for WSHS.

Maybe someone else at the meeting had a different take?

Early in the meeting she stated that map 3 was dead.

Later, she said some of the map 3 changes will need to come back.

I assumed she meant if Sangster talked their way into staying, then Hunt Valley now will need to leave.

This was certainly not what Sangster parents were advocating for last night. They were asking for clearer/better data before any decisions should be made. This is not about kicking some neighborhoods out so others stay in...they were asking for hard transfer numbers, current enrollment data...etc.

Every group that doesn't like the outcome of any decision tries to "slow it down" or "throw it out and start over" by requesting more and more data. This strategy has been applied across politics for decades, maybe centuries. Nothing would ever get done if we listened to the never ending cry for more and more data. At some point you need to set a deadline and stick to it.

Just to clarify, this did not sound like a stalling tactic. Dr.Reid, herself, said last night that she only received the transfer numbers the day before. FCPS seemed confused by simple questions of actual class sizes, whether they were adding in AAP kids, etc. Even the split number itself has been giving completely varying percentages throughout the process, first it was 23%, then 29%, then it was listed as 20% on last night's slides. BRAC members have been begging for accurate data to do their job well and still don't have much of what they requested.

At some point Reid will be held accountable. Both Reid and the School Board members routinely claim they aren’t aware of information or are only learning about information at the same time as members of the public.

It’s part and parcel of their trying to claim the process is driven by Thru and BRAC members.

This is blatant mismanagement and it’s the predictable result of Karl Frisch and Rachna Sizemore Heizer wanting to try and offload responsibility to avoid accountability. It’s not working. All of these people need to lose their jobs.

The school board started this process in at least April-May of 2024, with Reid's involvement. I was watching videos and reading board docs back then, so I know that they all were involved in all of this. It is available on Board Docs. It is available on the Fairfax Times archives.

19 months into this process, how on earth can they claim with a straight face that they don't have any of the necessary data to answer constituents' questions, and why on earth are they trying to pass the blame to the volunteer BRAC committee members???

If 19 month into your biggest project in 40 years, the CEO, Vice Presidents and board of directors have zero idea of what is going on, do not have any of the necessary data to answer simple direct questions from the customers paying their salary, only have dated, erroneous and incomplete data, and keep trying to pass the blame to the volunteer interns that work 5 hours/month, then someone or many people need to be fired. Hint, it is not the volunteer interns.

This is a scorched earth firing moment where you replace the entire leadership team.

The incompetence in a 4 billion dollar organization "bigger than 12 states" as Reid touted last night is simply unacceptable.

And it is not as if the WSHS has been sitting quietly for the past 2 years and just woke up to rezoning this year.

At the very least, Hunt Valley has been engaged heavily in this process since spring of 2024, and to a lesser extent, Daventry, asking all of these questions for over 19 months, of the school board, Reid and later, Thru and BRAC.

They know that we are very informed, very engaged, and very organized.

They know what our pain points are and what questions we have about data, enrollment, residency and transfers, because we have been asking these exact same questions repeatedly for almost 2 years, in the case of Hunt Valley. Every WSHS neighborhood that gets involved in the rezoning process has been asking the same questions, because we know our school, we know our community and we are an engaged community.

How on earth did FCPS come to this meeting almost 2 years into the process, and still not have accurate answers to the questions we have been asking since spring of 2024??

These questions about data are not surprises or gotcha questions.

It is insulting, unprofessional and outright incompetent to come to this WSHS meeting last night without having real, accurate data to answer out questions.

It all makes sense if you realize they don't care about your input and just have to pretend to listen to community feedback because they said they would as part of their process.

Sure, it makes sense in that light, but that's more reason for taxpayers and constituents to call it out, not less.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.viennava.gov/files/2d6203ef-a555-4660-9d82-77b0cccf033e/10-27-2025-Town-Council-Opposes-School-Redistricting-Plan.pdf

Here’s the Town of Vienna announcement.

Why should kids who live in Vienna be exempted from being moved around like everyone else, just because they live in Vienna?

No one is exempted. Being part of the TOV does not guarantee a Madison pyramid

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Anonymous wrote:The chantilly/westfield meeting is on Thursday

Thanks.

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What’s the beef that Sangster parents have with LBSS? It’s comparable to WSHS in most ways.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the beef that Sangster parents have with LBSS? It’s comparable to WSHS in most ways.

Please don't start this pot stirring again. Sangster parents made it very clear last night that they have absolutely no issues with the quality of LB.

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What’s the beef that Sangster parents have with LBSS? It’s comparable to WSHS in most ways.>>>>>

LBSS is a great school. But we are closer to WSHS. You can check for yourself....

Choose a house with an address in the 4700 block of Jenna Road, Springfield.

Map it to WSHS and then to LBSS. This morning I did that -

to WS it was 11 mins and 3.6 miles

to LBSS is 16 mins and 5.6 Miles and Passes WSHS en route.

I also mapped addresses down near Modisto Lane that are at WS and staying there. Further milage, longer travel time AND they pass the Hunstman Estates bus stop.

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Anonymous wrote:The chantilly/westfield meeting is on Thursday

There’s an additional meeting tonight because there’s a football game between Chantilly and Westfield on Thursday.

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Anonymous wrote:The chantilly/westfield meeting is on Thursday

There’s an additional meeting tonight because there’s a football game between Chantilly and Westfield on Thursday.

What are the main concerns of people from Chantilly and Westfield? Just curious as we live nearby but not in either of those pyramids. How are they feeling about the proposed maps for the new high school? Are there any groups that really do or do not want tobe moved to the new school, or moved to a different high school as a result of new boundaries being drawn to account for the new school?

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the beef that Sangster parents have with LBSS? It’s comparable to WSHS in most ways.>>>>>

LBSS is a great school. But we are closer to WSHS. You can check for yourself....

Choose a house with an address in the 4700 block of Jenna Road, Springfield.

Map it to WSHS and then to LBSS. This morning I did that -

to WS it was 11 mins and 3.6 miles

to LBSS is 16 mins and 5.6 Miles and Passes WSHS en route.

I also mapped addresses down near Modisto Lane that are at WS and staying there. Further milage, longer travel time AND they pass the Hunstman Estates bus stop.

Okay, I'll play. I just Google mapped it:

4700 Jenna Rd, Springfield, VA 22153

Distance
to Sangster - 1 mile
to Orange Hunt - 1.4 miles
to Irving MS - 3.4 miles
to Sangster - 4.8 miles
to WSHS - 3.5 or 3.9 miles

It's a whopping 1 extra mile.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the beef that Sangster parents have with LBSS? It’s comparable to WSHS in most ways.

Please don't start this pot stirring again. Sangster parents made it very clear last night that they have absolutely no issues with the quality of LB.

Actually, they made it very clear they do not want their kids going to LBSS. It's not part of their community. They don't feel like it's a good fit for their kids, even though many of their kids' friends go on to LBSS while their kids move on to Irvinig. And one woman has a terrible fear about her child being accosted by upperclassmen at LBSS. But, to be fair, she appeared to be an outlier.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.viennava.gov/files/2d6203ef-a555-4660-9d82-77b0cccf033e/10-27-2025-Town-Council-Opposes-School-Redistricting-Plan.pdf

Here’s the Town of Vienna announcement.

It's pretty shady that FCPS is holding the Madison pyramid meeting on October 29 when Vienna hosts its big Halloween parade, which is hosts the Wednesday before Halloween every year. The families that attend that 9huge) parade are the ones who will want to speak at that meeting.

And to be clear, I have no skin in this game - our schools are not being discussed for boundary changes - but I think optics matter, and this, to me, reeks of not really wanting to hear from the constituents.

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Thanks for playing! I am glad you came to the same conclusion

I do not know which route you chose because the shortest route added 2 miles (Down hillside) the longer route down Burke Lake Rd added even more time and milage.

Living in our community, I am sure you can also see how the minutes between the two, even only one mile, will vary greatly, especially during bus route times.

I am glad we are in agreement by the numbers.

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And one woman has a terrible fear about her child being accosted by upperclassmen at LBSS. But, to be fair, she appeared to be an outlier.


She was not a Sangster parent.

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I wonder how they decide which schools to put together. Fairfax and Woodson together only makes sense due to proximately but no students are moving from one to the other. Fairfax is losing kids to Chantilly and Oakton. The Oakton move makes no sense it's not a split feeder situation and Johnson Middle is way closer than Thoreau and Providence is about equal distance to Oakton ES and to get to Oakton ES the bus has to navigate the nasty intersection at 123 and Chain Bridge. It removes a higher income neighborhood from Providence and still leaves Oakton Park and Fairfax Village apartment at Providence and they are county not city kids. Probably not moving any of them to Oakton since low income. The main exit from those apartments is directly to 123.

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Anonymous wrote:The chantilly/westfield meeting is on Thursday

Thanks.

There is also a short one tonight for Chantilly/Westfield.

Dear Families,

We understand that the community boundary review meeting scheduled for the Chantilly and Westfield pyramids on October 30 conflicts with an athletic event that is expected to affect families in both pyramids.

While the October 30 meeting will continue as scheduled, we have added an earlier hybrid meeting for families in the Chantilly and Westfield pyramids who are unable to attend on the 30th.

The additional meeting will be held in person at Fairfax High School and virtually via Zoom on Tuesday, October 28, from 6 to 6:30 p.m. Enter through Door 1. The consultant will present the latest draft map, Scenario 4, and changes specific to the Chantilly and Westfield pyramids. They will also take questions.

Please help us plan for this meeting by registering to attend. Click in person or virtual based on how you would like to participate. (A Woodson/Fairfax pyramid meeting will immediately follow at 6:30 p.m. in the same space.)

If you plan to participate in person, feel free to come to the event at 5:30 p.m. to explore Scenario 4 in the Boundary Explorer Tool. (Scenario 4 is the only option available at this time for community review and feedback. Scenario 3 is included in the Boundary Explorer Tool only as a point of reference and comparison.) A limited number of FCPS laptops will be available, and staff will be on site to support you in using the tool. If you plan to participate virtually, you may log on at 5:30 p.m., and a staff member can walk you through how to use the tool. The meeting will begin at 6 p.m.

Note: Each high school pyramid is represented on the Superintendent's Boundary Review Advisory Committee. In addition to leaving feedback on the Boundary Explorer Tool, you can find your pyramid representative’s email address to share feedback or ask questions. Please visit the FCPS website for more information. Thank you.

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