Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What can be realistically done ? That’s easy.


1. Overton: He should be fired immediately. No one man should be allowed to create this much chaos, statewide, and still be receiving a paycheck from FFX Cty. If he wants to sue, great, I would love to see that deposition, under oath. Reid can fire him today. This should have happened the day VHSL imposed their ban.

(2) Hayfield principal:Should be Fired. But, let go gracefully, so not to interrupt the school year. He/she/they is captain of this sinking ship, and should be held accountable.

Again, Reid can do this today. It does not fix everything, but it is something.

1. Won’t happen if it ain’t happened yet

2. If one has happened yet, this definitely ain’t happening either

3. Way to just leave our the athletic director who also needs to be fired (but see 1 and 2)

I will articulate what I said three weeks ago

1. The smart move for Overton is finish season and quietly step down when the dust settles up sometime in March 2025. He sits out a year makes some private coaching camp money or takes a job somewhere in MD for 2026.

2. School principal gets another year maybe two at school along with athletic director, they hire a new coach for football with probably more gatehouse oversight

3. Suddenly a job opens in gatehouse in June and next year hayfield starts with an interim school principal while a new one is hired

4. Suddenly in December the athletic director announces he’s taking a gatehouse job and a new athletic director is hired

5. Everyone knows what’s happening and why but it’s stretched out to make it appear “nice” and do damage control. The three bad actors move on fairly unscathed because that’s just how it works sorry folks. The school gets a new coach and a new cultural direction (trust me I know teachers there some would be happy to see the principal and AD go away)

The above this is how things are done in fcps. No one will be “fired,” god they struggle in fcps to fire people for more egregious things so don’t expect that here.

It’s going to be all about how it’s done in a way that does damage control without continuing to bring more attention on both the school and county.

[Anonymous]

So what hapoens now that Mount Vernon is protesting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Robinson football parent and we're not the ones crying that we got bumped out of playoffs. We know why we originally made it and why we ultimately got bumped out. Stop with your scorn and sympathy. We're big boys over here and don't need people posting about how undeserving we were to be in the playoffs. I'm not personally commenting on my opinion about Hayfield or any of this football situation. Just want people to stop posting that we're the crybabies or poor losers in all of this because we're not.

Robinson alum from the first state title year (not football player though). The team was 3-7 and like you said you knew how you got in. Sounds like team prepped like it should and then things happened. We’ve always had a strong athletic culture and I don’t think any of you have been crybabies or losers. I’m curious did the team kind of feel like really were going to play? Were like not really good so like this is like yay playoffs with a so umm we ah might umm you know lose which would suck

And it was going to be against Braddock at Braddock right

That game generally goes pretty hard but if one team is not as strong as the other it really sucks the intensity out

Like Braddock may be like yea we wanna beat our rival but like if your rival is pretty lackluster, it’s more like okay we won yay but doesn’t have that like statement kind of feel

I remember when we beat Braddock in the late 90s and then had a hardcore rivalry with Centerville those years, those were absolute banger games to watch and be a part of. Everyone was super into it players coaches band cheerleaders students alums etc

Are you nuts? All the teams in that division were at school getting ready, dressing for the game when the judge ruled. Everyone prepared for the scheduled games. Booster groups spent thousands of dollars on concessions.

Stop it, school is out at 205 220 kids are not getting dressed at 337 when judge made his ruling, LB still is the home team and has a home game so that $$$ you’re claiming is NOT at a loss. You tried it though

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Evidently Superintendent Reid blocked sports reporter Chad Ricardo and the Fox 5 crew (and other journalists) from the building last night during the meeting with the rival coaches, activities directors, and principals.

It also appears schools are still contemplating a boycott. What a mess.

Source?

The schools threatening are irrelevant. They don’t have the talent to beat Hayfield. They can go out there and have fun, but their chances of winning are slim.

If the schools in the south side of the bracket all boycott, that could shake things up. But those school probably won’t because those teams are more competitive and most of them feel they are capable of beating Hayfield. Heck Madison or W&L isn’t going to take a forfeit either. They probably don’t want to play Hayfield, but I would be surprised if they let the outside drama get in the way of them giving their best effort in their championship runs.

It's not about talent at this point. They are standing on principle. Saying they are sick of FCPS and all te crap they let Hayfield pull. What they did was wrong. Stop trying to make it like these kids are scared of losing. It's ridiculous.

The kids ARE scared of losing. My son plays at LBSS and that's all they talk about. They know they have no chance.

In reality only a couple of kids at LBSS will have the opportunity, based on athleticism, to go further playing Football as opposed as those in Hayfield's team.

As for the parents, who are they kidding? Entitlement at its finest...

Bullshit. The kids aren't scared of losing. They know they will lose because the deck has been unfairly stacked. They aren't "scared".

To enroll in Fairfax County Public Schools, students all they need is to provide proof of residency in Fairfax County. That's it.

Whether fairly stacked or not, they still have no chance. The kids might not be crying but the parents for sure are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evidently Superintendent Reid blocked sports reporter Chad Ricardo and the Fox 5 crew (and other journalists) from the building last night during the meeting with the rival coaches, activities directors, and principals.

It also appears schools are still contemplating a boycott. What a mess.

Source?

The schools threatening are irrelevant. They don’t have the talent to beat Hayfield. They can go out there and have fun, but their chances of winning are slim.

If the schools in the south side of the bracket all boycott, that could shake things up. But those school probably won’t because those teams are more competitive and most of them feel they are capable of beating Hayfield. Heck Madison or W&L isn’t going to take a forfeit either. They probably don’t want to play Hayfield, but I would be surprised if they let the outside drama get in the way of them giving their best effort in their championship runs.

It's not about talent at this point. They are standing on principle. Saying they are sick of FCPS and all te crap they let Hayfield pull. What they did was wrong. Stop trying to make it like these kids are scared of losing. It's ridiculous.

The kids ARE scared of losing. My son plays at LBSS and that's all they talk about. They know they have no chance.

In reality only a couple of kids at LBSS will have the opportunity, based on athleticism, to go further playing Football as opposed as those in Hayfield's team.

As for the parents, who are they kidding? Entitlement at its finest...

Bullshit. The kids aren't scared of losing. They know they will lose because the deck has been unfairly stacked. They aren't "scared".

To enroll in Fairfax County Public Schools, students all they need is to provide proof of residency in Fairfax County. That's it.

Whether fairly stacked or not, they still have no chance. The kids might not be crying but the parents for sure are!

Costs so far:

30 kids * $19k/kid = $570,000

Law firm at $900/hour, round way down to 80 hours =$72, 000 (and that assumes no associates and only 2 weeks on this).

Security overtime for last night’s meeting (or did Overton do that for free as part of his Hayfield security role?)…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're scared, you've already lost. Blame yourself, blame your coach, go play a SOFT SPORT like lacrosse or soccer. THIS IS WHAT YOU PEOPLE DO -- If you can't beat'em, then disqualify'em.

What do you mean you people

[Anonymous]

The activities at Hayfield is the future of the game, like it or not. With the arrival of NIL money in college and high school football, this court's preliminary decision just signals the future. All these anti-recruiting rules will be relics of the past. These youth are free agents and who is the VHSL to restrict their ability to earn money and recognition. And who is the VHSL to restrict the coach's freedom of speech to tell a prospective "student" athlete the benefits of playing for him. Amateurism is dying quickly in scholastic sports and this is just one bell weather signaling the end. In five years the activities that many are alleging happened at Hayfield will not be violations of any rule.

[Anonymous]

Concessions orders for hot food for a playoff game are placed ahead of time and pre-paid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evidently Superintendent Reid blocked sports reporter Chad Ricardo and the Fox 5 crew (and other journalists) from the building last night during the meeting with the rival coaches, activities directors, and principals.

It also appears schools are still contemplating a boycott. What a mess.

Source?

The schools threatening are irrelevant. They don’t have the talent to beat Hayfield. They can go out there and have fun, but their chances of winning are slim.

If the schools in the south side of the bracket all boycott, that could shake things up. But those school probably won’t because those teams are more competitive and most of them feel they are capable of beating Hayfield. Heck Madison or W&L isn’t going to take a forfeit either. They probably don’t want to play Hayfield, but I would be surprised if they let the outside drama get in the way of them giving their best effort in their championship runs.

It's not about talent at this point. They are standing on principle. Saying they are sick of FCPS and all te crap they let Hayfield pull. What they did was wrong. Stop trying to make it like these kids are scared of losing. It's ridiculous.

The kids ARE scared of losing. My son plays at LBSS and that's all they talk about. They know they have no chance.

In reality only a couple of kids at LBSS will have the opportunity, based on athleticism, to go further playing Football as opposed as those in Hayfield's team.

As for the parents, who are they kidding? Entitlement at its finest...

Bullshit. The kids aren't scared of losing. They know they will lose because the deck has been unfairly stacked. They aren't "scared".

To enroll in Fairfax County Public Schools, students all they need is to provide proof of residency in Fairfax County. That's it.

Whether fairly stacked or not, they still have no chance. The kids might not be crying but the parents for sure are!

Or claim you are homeless, that works great with much less hassle. No one will even question you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What can be realistically done ? That’s easy.


1. Overton: He should be fired immediately. No one man should be allowed to create this much chaos, statewide, and still be receiving a paycheck from FFX Cty. If he wants to sue, great, I would love to see that deposition, under oath. Reid can fire him today. This should have happened the day VHSL imposed their ban.

(2) Hayfield principal:Should be Fired. But, let go gracefully, so not to interrupt the school year. He/she/they is captain of this sinking ship, and should be held accountable.

Again, Reid can do this today. It does not fix everything, but it is something.

1. Won’t happen if it ain’t happened yet

2. If one has happened yet, this definitely ain’t happening either

3. Way to just leave our the athletic director who also needs to be fired (but see 1 and 2)

I will articulate what I said three weeks ago

1. The smart move for Overton is finish season and quietly step down when the dust settles up sometime in March 2025. He sits out a year makes some private coaching camp money or takes a job somewhere in MD for 2026.

2. School principal gets another year maybe two at school along with athletic director, they hire a new coach for football with probably more gatehouse oversight

3. Suddenly a job opens in gatehouse in June and next year hayfield starts with an interim school principal while a new one is hired

4. Suddenly in December the athletic director announces he’s taking a gatehouse job and a new athletic director is hired

5. Everyone knows what’s happening and why but it’s stretched out to make it appear “nice” and do damage control. The three bad actors move on fairly unscathed because that’s just how it works sorry folks. The school gets a new coach and a new cultural direction (trust me I know teachers there some would be happy to see the principal and AD go away)

The above this is how things are done in fcps. No one will be “fired,” god they struggle in fcps to fire people for more egregious things so don’t expect that here.

It’s going to be all about how it’s done in a way that does damage control without continuing to bring more attention on both the school and county.

Re (1) above, the real media has just started reporting this. (On local news last night). Things can change quickly when reporters start asking this exact question on camera. And, the story only gets bigger when games or forfeits start tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What can be realistically done ? That’s easy.


1. Overton: He should be fired immediately. No one man should be allowed to create this much chaos, statewide, and still be receiving a paycheck from FFX Cty. If he wants to sue, great, I would love to see that deposition, under oath. Reid can fire him today. This should have happened the day VHSL imposed their ban.

(2) Hayfield principal:Should be Fired. But, let go gracefully, so not to interrupt the school year. He/she/they is captain of this sinking ship, and should be held accountable.

Again, Reid can do this today. It does not fix everything, but it is something.

1. Won’t happen if it ain’t happened yet

2. If one has happened yet, this definitely ain’t happening either

3. Way to just leave our the athletic director who also needs to be fired (but see 1 and 2)

I will articulate what I said three weeks ago

1. The smart move for Overton is finish season and quietly step down when the dust settles up sometime in March 2025. He sits out a year makes some private coaching camp money or takes a job somewhere in MD for 2026.

2. School principal gets another year maybe two at school along with athletic director, they hire a new coach for football with probably more gatehouse oversight

3. Suddenly a job opens in gatehouse in June and next year hayfield starts with an interim school principal while a new one is hired

4. Suddenly in December the athletic director announces he’s taking a gatehouse job and a new athletic director is hired

5. Everyone knows what’s happening and why but it’s stretched out to make it appear “nice” and do damage control. The three bad actors move on fairly unscathed because that’s just how it works sorry folks. The school gets a new coach and a new cultural direction (trust me I know teachers there some would be happy to see the principal and AD go away)

The above this is how things are done in fcps. No one will be “fired,” god they struggle in fcps to fire people for more egregious things so don’t expect that here.

It’s going to be all about how it’s done in a way that does damage control without continuing to bring more attention on both the school and county.

Re (1) above, the real media has just started reporting this. (On local news last night). Things can change quickly when reporters start asking this exact question on camera. And, the story only gets bigger when games or forfeits start tomorrow.

Fairfax Times has done a great job so far. Whoever that parent was that attacked their reporter was pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evidently Superintendent Reid blocked sports reporter Chad Ricardo and the Fox 5 crew (and other journalists) from the building last night during the meeting with the rival coaches, activities directors, and principals.

It also appears schools are still contemplating a boycott. What a mess.

Source?

The schools threatening are irrelevant. They don’t have the talent to beat Hayfield. They can go out there and have fun, but their chances of winning are slim.

If the schools in the south side of the bracket all boycott, that could shake things up. But those school probably won’t because those teams are more competitive and most of them feel they are capable of beating Hayfield. Heck Madison or W&L isn’t going to take a forfeit either. They probably don’t want to play Hayfield, but I would be surprised if they let the outside drama get in the way of them giving their best effort in their championship runs.

It's not about talent at this point. They are standing on principle. Saying they are sick of FCPS and all te crap they let Hayfield pull. What they did was wrong. Stop trying to make it like these kids are scared of losing. It's ridiculous.

The kids ARE scared of losing. My son plays at LBSS and that's all they talk about. They know they have no chance.

In reality only a couple of kids at LBSS will have the opportunity, based on athleticism, to go further playing Football as opposed as those in Hayfield's team.

As for the parents, who are they kidding? Entitlement at its finest...

Bullshit. The kids aren't scared of losing. They know they will lose because the deck has been unfairly stacked. They aren't "scared".

To enroll in Fairfax County Public Schools, students all they need is to provide proof of residency in Fairfax County. That's it.

Whether fairly stacked or not, they still have no chance. The kids might not be crying but the parents for sure are!

Costs so far:

30 kids * $19k/kid = $570,000

Law firm at $900/hour, round way down to 80 hours =$72, 000 (and that assumes no associates and only 2 weeks on this).

Security overtime for last night’s meeting (or did Overton do that for free as part of his Hayfield security role?)…..

Costs are way way higher than this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what the brackets are supposed to be. The schools split the gate and it’s alot of lost money for the schools that need it. Don’t see forfeits happening.

The brackets can be found here:
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/tournament/select.aspx?ssid=a643f8a4-e859-435e-b8eb-cdd8618de124&tournamentid=bfa4bf06-28dc-4d66-8491-1013c368703c

[Anonymous]

Ha you think boys' lacrosse is a soft sport? You obviously don't know shit about lacrosse. Speaking of Robinson, you should have seen Robinson's boys team this past spring. They dominated everyone, were undefeated and easily won States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evidently Superintendent Reid blocked sports reporter Chad Ricardo and the Fox 5 crew (and other journalists) from the building last night during the meeting with the rival coaches, activities directors, and principals.

It also appears schools are still contemplating a boycott. What a mess.

Source?

The schools threatening are irrelevant. They don’t have the talent to beat Hayfield. They can go out there and have fun, but their chances of winning are slim.

If the schools in the south side of the bracket all boycott, that could shake things up. But those school probably won’t because those teams are more competitive and most of them feel they are capable of beating Hayfield. Heck Madison or W&L isn’t going to take a forfeit either. They probably don’t want to play Hayfield, but I would be surprised if they let the outside drama get in the way of them giving their best effort in their championship runs.

It's not about talent at this point. They are standing on principle. Saying they are sick of FCPS and all te crap they let Hayfield pull. What they did was wrong. Stop trying to make it like these kids are scared of losing. It's ridiculous.

The kids ARE scared of losing. My son plays at LBSS and that's all they talk about. They know they have no chance.

In reality only a couple of kids at LBSS will have the opportunity, based on athleticism, to go further playing Football as opposed as those in Hayfield's team.

As for the parents, who are they kidding? Entitlement at its finest...

Bullshit. The kids aren't scared of losing. They know they will lose because the deck has been unfairly stacked. They aren't "scared".

To enroll in Fairfax County Public Schools, students all they need is to provide proof of residency in Fairfax County. That's it.

Whether fairly stacked or not, they still have no chance. The kids might not be crying but the parents for sure are!

No, they need to prove they live in boundary for that school.

To play sports under VHSL, the entire family needs to change their BONA FIDE address and have the transfer approved.