Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

Anonymous
The entire thing has become a trip into a rabbit hole -- but from last week here's part of the NYT about Brett Kavanaugh pursuing a rabbit hole himself:

Mr. Kavanaugh noted in various memos that he personally believed that Mr. Foster had indeed committed suicide — “my thoughts, not the Office’s position,” he clarified at one point. But he did not file away the harebrained theories; instead, he apparently felt obligated to address the conspiracy-mongers’ already disproved fantasies. And for nearly three years at a cost of $2 million he aggressively followed up. He investigated the Swiss bank account connection, down to examining Mr. Foster’s American Express bills for flights to Switzerland. He meticulously examined the White House carpets, old and new. (By now, Mr. Foster had been dead four years.) He sent investigators in search of follicle specimens from Mr. Foster’s bereft, blond, teenage daughter. (“We have Foster’s hair,” one agent working for Mr. Kavanaugh reported in triumph.)

Mr. Kavanaugh apparently took a special interest in Hillary Clinton’s bruited affair with Mr. Foster, a popular rumor in the fever swamps of the right. As he reported, his investigators “asked numerous people about it,” before he decided to ask Mrs. Clinton herself.

Of course, Mr. Kavanaugh proved nothing new, as there was nothing new to prove except in conspiratorial illusion. But there was nothing funny about his Inspector Clouseau performance. For months, his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster’s friends. His office spread malicious sexual innuendo about Hillary Clinton, whom he seems to have regarded as prey. By reopening a closed investigation, he irresponsibly gave the Foster conspiracy freaks credibility to continue smearing the Clintons and poison public debate for another three years, all at the taxpayers’ expense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Democrats better hope that the FBI found something damning on Kavanaugh, that prevents his confirmation. Otherwise, this is going to backfire on them. The fact that his confirmation seems to hinge on a high yearbook from 36 years ago is obnoxious and is symbolic of MeToo overreach. If there isn’t some serious dirt, this will all seem completely unjustifiable.


Since the FBI didn't really investigate, and basically hid from any witnesses who tried to contact them, I think this is looking even more justifiable.

Something is rotten in DC.


Exactly. This is not the investigation Flake purportedly requested. I hope he stands tall.
Anonymous
Trump has to keep his word about if kavanaugh lied to congress it changes things.

Anonymous
My mistake, NYT had that back on Sept 5. A month in Trumptopia is like a decade anywhere else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:McConnell filed for cloture. It appears vote is set for tomorrow at 11. Source is periscope


It's over. This means FBI didn't find anything new and McConnell has the votes. He will be confirmed this week.


No. It means it’s over. McConnell can and will bring things to the floor that will go down in flames if Trump tells him to. Like say, multiple ACA repeal Bills. I doubt he knows if he has the votes, since the Senators don’t have the report to review. He needs to paint or get off the ladder. If Trump won’t withdraw Kav, he needs him conformed or voted down so they can move on and get someone else in before the end of a lame duck session.
Anonymous
A report that did not hear from the principal complainant.
A report that did not take statements from individuals identified to the FBI as corroborating.
Twitter filled with statements by Kavanaugh friends who claim he is lying.

That's not an investigation. That's a coverup.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


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his cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.


This is exactly correct. Thank you.


Wrong. Coming from a long line of police officers. COMPLETELY wrong. BIGLY WRONG.


Sheesh. I can't keep up with this thread but the first poster above is wrong. I have 22 years of experience with interviewing suspects and the innocent ones do not behave like cornered animals. I think many people commenting on his demeanor did not see all his testimony. The media cherry picked the fairly mild parts. The crying about his father's calendars was bizarre. As if his dad were long dead. There he was sitting with his second wife three seats down from Brett. Between the easily rebutted lies and his courtroom demeanor I think he is not a good candidate for the highest court. He should be above all reproach .

I will never understand how some of you insist his crying about "the calendars" was bizarre. Obviously, it wasn't literally the calendars he was crying over; he was devastated mentioning his father because HE HAD TO SIT THERE IN FRONT OF HIS FATHER KNOWING HIS FATHER WAS HEARING ALL OF THESE DISGUSTING THINGS ALLEGED ABOUT HIM. Have you people no empathy at all? His dad is probably someone he's always looked up to, and here is his entire family, utterly disgraced and mortified because of these 35+ year old allegations - which he has no way of defending himself from. My God, I'd be crying too! He cried when mentioning his beloved daughters and wife, too. This has got to be the worst time in his entire life, and you're criticizing him for crying?? Unbelievable.

A judge in a courtroom would never allow a man facing the death penalty, arguably more life altering, behave this way. He would remove him for contempt of court. But this was not a trial, it was a job interview. He really doesn't handle stress well.
Anonymous
Sadly i think this DB will be confirmed. Makes me ill.

I do not think impeachment will be possible.

He is such a loathsome creature and I am still surprised at how many women in DC are supporting him.

No one could EVER be as bad as Trump but Kavanaugh is close.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Democrats better hope that the FBI found something damning on Kavanaugh, that prevents his confirmation. Otherwise, this is going to backfire on them. The fact that his confirmation seems to hinge on a high yearbook from 36 years ago is obnoxious and is symbolic of MeToo overreach. If there isn’t some serious dirt, this will all seem completely unjustifiable.


Since the FBI didn't really investigate, and basically hid from any witnesses who tried to contact them, I think this is looking even more justifiable.

Something is rotten in DC.

Well, fish always rottens from its head...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A report that did not hear from the principal complainant.
A report that did not take statements from individuals identified to the FBI as corroborating.
Twitter filled with statements by Kavanaugh friends who claim he is lying.

That's not an investigation. That's a coverup.

Hopefully others will realize this and vote 'no' regardless of what the FBI report claims. The narrow FBI report can't dictate how a senator must vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A report that did not hear from the principal complainant.
A report that did not take statements from individuals identified to the FBI as corroborating.
Twitter filled with statements by Kavanaugh friends who claim he is lying.

That's not an investigation. That's a coverup.

Why are you surprised? It was clear from the beginning.... Reps didn't wat that investigation
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The entire thing has become a trip into a rabbit hole -- but from last week here's part of the NYT about Brett Kavanaugh pursuing a rabbit hole himself:

Mr. Kavanaugh noted in various memos that he personally believed that Mr. Foster had indeed committed suicide — “my thoughts, not the Office’s position,” he clarified at one point. But he did not file away the harebrained theories; instead, he apparently felt obligated to address the conspiracy-mongers’ already disproved fantasies. And for nearly three years at a cost of $2 million he aggressively followed up. He investigated the Swiss bank account connection, down to examining Mr. Foster’s American Express bills for flights to Switzerland. He meticulously examined the White House carpets, old and new. (By now, Mr. Foster had been dead four years.) He sent investigators in search of follicle specimens from Mr. Foster’s bereft, blond, teenage daughter. (“We have Foster’s hair,” one agent working for Mr. Kavanaugh reported in triumph.)

Mr. Kavanaugh apparently took a special interest in Hillary Clinton’s bruited affair with Mr. Foster, a popular rumor in the fever swamps of the right. As he reported, his investigators “asked numerous people about it,” before he decided to ask Mrs. Clinton herself.

Of course, Mr. Kavanaugh proved nothing new, as there was nothing new to prove except in conspiratorial illusion. But there was nothing funny about his Inspector Clouseau performance. For months, his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster’s friends. His office spread malicious sexual innuendo about Hillary Clinton, whom he seems to have regarded as prey. By reopening a closed investigation, he irresponsibly gave the Foster conspiracy freaks credibility to continue smearing the Clintons and poison public debate for another three years, all at the taxpayers’ expense.


I thought Hillary Clinton was paranoid for a long time,, but it looks like people were really out to get hee.
Anonymous
What does Kennedy say?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:McConnell filed for cloture. It appears vote is set for tomorrow at 11. Source is periscope


It's over. This means FBI didn't find anything new and McConnell has the votes. He will be confirmed this week.


Nah. McConnell wants this over with. The longer it drags on, the worse it gets. He doesn't have the votes, he just wants this done.


Pundits suggest that if the GOP doesn't confirm Kavanaugh it will actually deepen the blue wave. I know polling today contradicts that - so hard to predict or understand.


I believe it. I don’t know what they were thinking. But there is no time to get another person through before the midterms. If Trump appoints someone and the Senate changes hands, a lame duck Senate could technically confirm. But, as McConnell himself said, the voters would have weighed in. You would look at Garland and say he should have to carry it over to the next Senate. My guess is Dems would hope they could save this seat. Now, McConnell would have no problem with forcing it through. But, the hope would be a nomination could be stopped by a blue wave and the senate changing hands.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can a SC justice be impeached?


Yes but. 2/3 to remove in the Senate. He’d be impossible to remove. But we’d still get 2 years worth of repeat of the Clinton impeachment trials.
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