Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A report that did not hear from the principal complainant.
A report that did not take statements from individuals identified to the FBI as corroborating.
Twitter filled with statements by Kavanaugh friends who claim he is lying.

That's not an investigation. That's a coverup.

Why are you surprised? It was clear from the beginning.... Reps didn't wat that investigation

What the senators should remember before the vote is what kavanaugh displayed at the hearing. That is all they need to vote him out.

This does not mean they have the votes. Like the other poster I believe trump wants to keep his word and stick to the timeframe he set. He sounds like he just wants this to be over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump has to keep his word about if kavanaugh lied to congress it changes things.

Why? Because he is an honest, upstanding man of his word?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Sasse? Sounds like a No to me
"I urged the president to nominate a different individual. I urged the president to nominate a woman," Sasse said.

Wow. That’s a game changer. Something about rats and a sinking ship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Sasse? Sounds like a No to me
"I urged the president to nominate a different individual. I urged the president to nominate a woman," Sasse said.

Sasse is a Yes.

Link? Articles I’m seeing say he says most sexual assault claims are true.

[Anonymous]

I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Sasse? Sounds like a No to me
"I urged the president to nominate a different individual. I urged the president to nominate a woman," Sasse said.

Sasse is a Yes.

Link? Articles I’m seeing say he says most sexual assault claims are true.

Same here. I searched online where he is a yes and found nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire thing has become a trip into a rabbit hole -- but from last week here's part of the NYT about Brett Kavanaugh pursuing a rabbit hole himself:

Mr. Kavanaugh noted in various memos that he personally believed that Mr. Foster had indeed committed suicide — “my thoughts, not the Office’s position,” he clarified at one point. But he did not file away the harebrained theories; instead, he apparently felt obligated to address the conspiracy-mongers’ already disproved fantasies. And for nearly three years at a cost of $2 million he aggressively followed up. He investigated the Swiss bank account connection, down to examining Mr. Foster’s American Express bills for flights to Switzerland. He meticulously examined the White House carpets, old and new. (By now, Mr. Foster had been dead four years.) He sent investigators in search of follicle specimens from Mr. Foster’s bereft, blond, teenage daughter. (“We have Foster’s hair,” one agent working for Mr. Kavanaugh reported in triumph.)

Mr. Kavanaugh apparently took a special interest in Hillary Clinton’s bruited affair with Mr. Foster, a popular rumor in the fever swamps of the right. As he reported, his investigators “asked numerous people about it,” before he decided to ask Mrs. Clinton herself.

Of course, Mr. Kavanaugh proved nothing new, as there was nothing new to prove except in conspiratorial illusion. But there was nothing funny about his Inspector Clouseau performance. For months, his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster’s friends. His office spread malicious sexual innuendo about Hillary Clinton, whom he seems to have regarded as prey. By reopening a closed investigation, he irresponsibly gave the Foster conspiracy freaks credibility to continue smearing the Clintons and poison public debate for another three years, all at the taxpayers’ expense.

I thought Hillary Clinton was paranoid for a long time,, but it looks like people were really out to get hee.

Yeah. I don’t feel too sorry for Kavanaugh getting his personal life shredded. In a way, it is karmic justice for his life as a partisan henchman. He’s not a civilian. It’s possible that that TPTB in the Democratic Party may be pushing this out of revenge as much as the MeToo stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A report that did not hear from the principal complainant.
A report that did not take statements from individuals identified to the FBI as corroborating.
Twitter filled with statements by Kavanaugh friends who claim he is lying.

That's not an investigation. That's a coverup.

Why are you surprised? It was clear from the beginning.... Reps didn't wat that investigation

What the senators should remember before the vote is what kavanaugh displayed at the hearing. That is all they need to vote him out.

This does not mean they have the votes. Like the other poster I believe trump wants to keep his word and stick to the timeframe he set. He sounds like he just wants this to be over.

Kavanaughs trending and people are outraged about him, instead of Trump this week. Time for Kav to find the door and exit the stage so we can go back to the Trump Show.

Trump loved the praise he got for picking Gorsuch and getting him through without a hitch. A lot of conservatives saying they hated Trump, but loved that he got them Gorsuch. Hard to see Trump getting praise for this, and I Reddit Sasse is the first in a long line of Senators about to reveal that they told Trump so. Trump has spent two years throwing his own party under the bus. Payback time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

My hope (note: only a hope, not any insider knowledge) is that the 4 of them get together, and decide: as a group, we must decide no. Whoever can take the political flak at home to say no, says no. Whoever has the political cover to say yes, says yes, as long as there are enough no's to cover. I hope that they as a group will decide the fate of the SOTUS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

Collins is a no. She made her career being a pro-choice R. She won’t be the deciding vote to put him on the Court. Also, her base is females—Dems and Rs, and her state hates him. She waffles, but she does what her state wants when it really matters, like the ACA. Murkowski is a yes— the native groups in her state got her elected. Flake wants his John McCain thumbs down moment on the way out the door. So, Manchin or Heitcamp May cross over because the vote is not needed. Heitcamp is probably in more trouble with her electorate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

My hope (note: only a hope, not any insider knowledge) is that the 4 of them get together, and decide: as a group, we must decide no. Whoever can take the political flak at home to say no, says no. Whoever has the political cover to say yes, says yes, as long as there are enough no's to cover. I hope that they as a group will decide the fate of the SOTUS

My thoughts also. Sasse sounds like he could be a no in case one of the others caves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

Collins is a no. She made her career being a pro-choice R. She won’t be the deciding vote to put him on the Court. Also, her base is females—Dems and Rs, and her state hates him. She waffles, but she does what her state wants when it really matters, like the ACA. Murkowski is a yes— the native groups in her state got her elected. Flake wants his John McCain thumbs down moment on the way out the door. So, Manchin or Heitcamp May cross over because the vote is not needed. Heitcamp is probably in more trouble with her electorate.

the native groups in alaska don't want kavanaugh, so why would she vote yes? i don't understand that. I think she could vote no if she wants to keep them

[Anonymous]

The White House engineered a report in which Kavanaugh did not lie to the FBI and Ford could not corroborate.

Swing senators lwill fall in line because they know that they will be at risk in their states if they don’t.

Both sides whip up their bases and. Metoo gets a historic milestone. And brett gets his job.

Those unhappy with a Justice K can hope for another year of the woman, recusals, and maybe a term shortened due to reputational misery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

My hope (note: only a hope, not any insider knowledge) is that the 4 of them get together, and decide: as a group, we must decide no. Whoever can take the political flak at home to say no, says no. Whoever has the political cover to say yes, says yes, as long as there are enough no's to cover. I hope that they as a group will decide the fate of the SOTUS

It would be beautiful if Sasse is about to be a no, and Collins, Murkowski, Sasse and Flake were no’s, Heitcamp and Manchin were yes, he goes down 49-51. Everyone in the center is re-elected, which is good for the county. None of these folks are pals of Trump. If I can do this math, they can too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

Collins is a no. She made her career being a pro-choice R. She won’t be the deciding vote to put him on the Court. Also, her base is females—Dems and Rs, and her state hates him. She waffles, but she does what her state wants when it really matters, like the ACA. Murkowski is a yes— the native groups in her state got her elected. Flake wants his John McCain thumbs down moment on the way out the door. So, Manchin or Heitcamp May cross over because the vote is not needed. Heitcamp is probably in more trouble with her electorate.

the native groups in alaska don't want kavanaugh, so why would she vote yes? i don't understand that. I think she could vote no if she wants to keep them

PP here. Sorry. Past my bedtime. Murkowski as a no.