The White Lotus season 2

[Anonymous]

I’ve rewatched most of the season (all but last two episodes) and I think Fahy’s greatest strength is the subtly of how she weaves in Daphne’s layers. Definitely with an assist from Mike White because the camera catches so much of what she is doing.

There’s the version of Daphne she mostly presents to the world, which includes her bubbly public persona, her flirtations with her husband, and even the “I make myself happy” and “I don’t let myself be a victim” that she presents the Ethan and Harper. But there is a more vulnerable, hurt version of Daphne that floats below the surface, and you catch glimpses of it here and there. Most recently in the scene with Ethan in the finale when he tells her he thinks something happened between Cam and Harper. It’s this flicker of hurt and sadness before she asserts the version of herself she wants to predominate. You see it in a lot of her interactions with Harper and occasionally it crosses her face in response to things she sees Cameron doing. But then she pushes it under again.

I actually don’t think there’s any one standout scene with Daphne that captures what Fahy is doing with the character. But especially on rewatch, you can really see how she’s creating layers of emotion to this character. I think it’s probably the best performance of the season, maybe rivaled only by Jennifer Coolidge in the last two episodes, which blew me away. This show gives strong actors so much to chew on, it’s really amazing. I think the people who underperformed given the opportunity were Will Sharpe (I kept waiting for it to click but it never did) and Imperioli. They weren’t bad, they just didn’t make the most of it. Fahy and Coolidge really did.

I think Aubrey Plaza was also exceptional, but also her character was more straightforward and her scenes easier to play with less subtext. But I’d still say she deserves her nomination. It’s just that so does Fahy, IMO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.

I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.

+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season

Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.

I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.

+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season

Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.

The thing is I think she really was trying to show her range and, yikes. Not much substance with her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve rewatched most of the season (all but last two episodes) and I think Fahy’s greatest strength is the subtly of how she weaves in Daphne’s layers. Definitely with an assist from Mike White because the camera catches so much of what she is doing.

There’s the version of Daphne she mostly presents to the world, which includes her bubbly public persona, her flirtations with her husband, and even the “I make myself happy” and “I don’t let myself be a victim” that she presents the Ethan and Harper. But there is a more vulnerable, hurt version of Daphne that floats below the surface, and you catch glimpses of it here and there. Most recently in the scene with Ethan in the finale when he tells her he thinks something happened between Cam and Harper. It’s this flicker of hurt and sadness before she asserts the version of herself she wants to predominate. You see it in a lot of her interactions with Harper and occasionally it crosses her face in response to things she sees Cameron doing. But then she pushes it under again.

I actually don’t think there’s any one standout scene with Daphne that captures what Fahy is doing with the character. But especially on rewatch, you can really see how she’s creating layers of emotion to this character. I think it’s probably the best performance of the season, maybe rivaled only by Jennifer Coolidge in the last two episodes, which blew me away. This show gives strong actors so much to chew on, it’s really amazing. I think the people who underperformed given the opportunity were Will Sharpe (I kept waiting for it to click but it never did) and Imperioli. They weren’t bad, they just didn’t make the most of it. Fahy and Coolidge really did.

I think Aubrey Plaza was also exceptional, but also her character was more straightforward and her scenes easier to play with less subtext. But I’d still say she deserves her nomination. It’s just that so does Fahy, IMO.

Except for your Plaza take, I agree with all of this. Just, what a delight, to see highly skilled actors knock it out of the park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.

I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.

+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season

Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.

Bingo, she's literally playing herself, down to the dubious Puerto Rican roots. But so many nearly and middle aged millennial women "identify" with her, so they fangirl her. They are also *so* sarcastic and witty, so they rationalize her character cheating on her husband with his college bully as nbd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So are we supposed to think Greg was talking to Quentin on the phone earlier at the hotel those times and telling him he loved him? So he's also gay? Even though Quentin described him as straight?

It seems like Greg and Quentin maybe had the mutual plan of show Tanya a good time for a last time and then kill her. I guess that was the only reason for fooling around with the Mafia drug supplier. Still not clear why they videotaped it, then, if the whole plot was just to kill her. Seems like the taping (showing the sex and tape were planned out) could be evidence against them in a murder investigation.

Anyway -- after Tanya died, her s money would go to Greg, and he would split it with Quentin and his crew. Or he would live with Quentin happily ever after and share the money, if they were a couple. Quentin would reward his "nephew" for distracting and/or killing Portia.

Look at the ruthless societies most of the men this season were a part of - Quentin and his gay mafia; Greg and whatever made him the way he is even though Tanya saved him from cancer; Cameron and his Madoff bros inducting Ethan in too; Nonno, Dom, and Alvie and their Society of the Male Gaze. Sure the women had their own issues, but none of them were part of groups that had the same base malevolence as what was going on with the men. Lucia and her friend were grifting but somehow it was nicer; maybe that's my bias as a woman ha.

I don’t think the plan the whole time was to kill her. Right before Portia called, they looked like they were about to deliver a pitch, like when you go to a university for an alumni event. They started talking about how hard it was to maintain such a place, and reminded her of how much fun she had. She may have just straight up agreed to give them the money if they hadn’t totally scared her. I know we saw the ropes and duct tape, but I’m not convinced they were for sure set on killing her.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

Yep. And Daphne’s other revenge is having kids with her trainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

Yep. And Daphne’s other revenge is having kids with her trainer.

Oh ffs. She did not have kids with her trainer. The trainer was a metaphor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.

I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.

+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season

Same, she was wonderful and conveyed so much even without speaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

Yep. And Daphne’s other revenge is having kids with her trainer.

Oh ffs. She did not have kids with her trainer. The trainer was a metaphor.

Did you see Cameron’s reaction when he was flossing and had to FaceTime with the kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

Yep. And Daphne’s other revenge is having kids with her trainer.

Oh ffs. She did not have kids with her trainer. The trainer was a metaphor.

Did you see Cameron’s reaction when he was flossing and had to FaceTime with the kids?

I just think it's funny that he chooses flossing over his kids. FLOSSING! ha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

Yep. And Daphne’s other revenge is having kids with her trainer.

Oh ffs. She did not have kids with her trainer. The trainer was a metaphor.

Did you see Cameron’s reaction when he was flossing and had to FaceTime with the kids?

Yes, Cameron is a jerk. We knew that. His kids are an accessory. At least daphne really loves them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this thread from the beginning but did Ethan and Daphne have sex when she led him out to the island? Did Ethan and Daphne get “revenge” on Harper and Cameron by cheating on their spouses (who they thought had slept together)?

Is that why Ethan was then able to have sex with Harper and Daphne was able to put her happy wife facade back on?

Yep. And Daphne’s other revenge is having kids with her trainer.

Oh ffs. She did not have kids with her trainer. The trainer was a metaphor.

You have never explained why you think Daphne made up a fake person as a metaphor, or what the metaphor even is.