I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

As a teacher, I’m not panicked. I am just trying to anticipate what leadership might do because I cannot STAND last minute upheavals. Last year was a nightmare for me.

That’s how I feel. As a vaccinated teacher I feel safe. Presumably the kids I teach in person will feel safe or their parents would have chosen the remote option that anyone who wanted it was offered. My kids can’t be vaccinated yet but I have accepted they’ll probably get it at some point and almost certainly be fine. I am simply trying to look at the stats and the situation with full knowledge person + unvaccinated kids + delta objectively to try to determine what the plan is because like the teacher PP said the hardest part of last year was how stuff was CONSTANTLY changing up.

This is inaccurate. Anyone who wanted remote could not take it. You had to show a medical reason.

Oh well in Loudoun so few chose it that they ended up opening it up to anyone. Numbers are still at like 600 total. I figured fairfax did the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

As a teacher, I’m not panicked. I am just trying to anticipate what leadership might do because I cannot STAND last minute upheavals. Last year was a nightmare for me.

That’s how I feel. As a vaccinated teacher I feel safe. Presumably the kids I teach in person will feel safe or their parents would have chosen the remote option that anyone who wanted it was offered. My kids can’t be vaccinated yet but I have accepted they’ll probably get it at some point and almost certainly be fine. I am simply trying to look at the stats and the situation with full knowledge person + unvaccinated kids + delta objectively to try to determine what the plan is because like the teacher PP said the hardest part of last year was how stuff was CONSTANTLY changing up.

This is inaccurate. Anyone who wanted remote could not take it. You had to show a medical reason.

^ PP is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

I am pretty sure a lot of kids will have to die before school becomes full-time virtual again… and maybe not even then. So, get vaccinated if you aren’t and have your unvaccinated children wear masks.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

I am pretty sure a lot of kids will have to die before school becomes full-time virtual again… and maybe not even then. So, get vaccinated if you aren’t and have your unvaccinated children wear masks.

Snort. America has proven it doesn't care about the safety of its children. Not really. See: Sandy Hook.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

I am pretty sure a lot of kids will have to die before school becomes full-time virtual again… and maybe not even then. So, get vaccinated if you aren’t and have your unvaccinated children wear masks.

Snort. America has proven it doesn't care about the safety of its children. Not really. See: Sandy Hook.

Absolutely. I have found it interesting that you can immediately see notable and observable differences in the security of federal and government buildings after they have been attacked. I think that schools are quite literally the only places where an increase in security or change in policy is never considered despite them being regularly targeted. It speaks volumes about how children and education are viewed in this country.

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Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

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Any chance people will treat these variants like they used to do with chickenpox, and just try and get kids infected before school starts?

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance people will treat these variants like they used to do with chickenpox, and just try and get kids infected before school starts?

I doubt it. The people who were going to do that would've done it already. I think most people are banking on their kids not getting it, and same for themselves if they're still unvaccinated as adults. For all the talk of "it's just a cold/ most cases are mild/ very few people die of Covid", most people are still not willingly going to try and infect their kids or themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

We weren't really screening in the spring but if teachers saw a student with symptoms they would send them down to the clinic.

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Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

No.

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Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

No.

+1. It was a way for FCPS to offer plausible deniability if/when there were multiple cases in a school. If they really wanted to screen, they would've done testing.

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

No.

Oddly enough Emily Oster’s data showed a correlation between symptom screening and lower in-school spread. Maybe that was just because it only occurs in schools doing other mitigation?

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

No.

Oddly enough Emily Oster’s data showed a correlation between symptom screening and lower in-school spread. Maybe that was just because it only occurs in schools doing other mitigation?

Emily Oster herself said nobody should have been using her data or conclusions to actually make decisions on school operations.