I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

No.

Oddly enough Emily Oster’s data showed a correlation between symptom screening and lower in-school spread. Maybe that was just because it only occurs in schools doing other mitigation?

Emily Oster herself said nobody should have been using her data or conclusions to actually make decisions on school operations.

Nobody should be using her “data” for anything except lining birdcages.

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

Is anyone dumb enough to think these screening are anything but theater?

No.

Oddly enough Emily Oster’s data showed a correlation between symptom screening and lower in-school spread. Maybe that was just because it only occurs in schools doing other mitigation?

Emily Oster herself said nobody should have been using her data or conclusions to actually make decisions on school operations.

Nobody should be using her “data” for anything except lining birdcages.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

Compare it to summer camps that are having massive outbreaks.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

Compare it to summer camps that are having massive outbreaks.

Examples?

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

Compare it to summer camps that are having massive outbreaks.

I just did a quick comparison through a search. In the examples I found some of the commonalities were that camp attendees old enough for vaccination weren’t vaccinated, they were in areas with low vaccination rates, and/or masks were not required.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

No S Sherlock, but Covid was and we didn’t have spread in the schools. Yes I know Delta is more contagious, but is there anything closer to compare to other than last spring? We’ll have cases, that’s 100% certain, but I’ll bet spread will be minimal and something we can manage.

Compare it to summer camps that are having massive outbreaks.

I just did a quick comparison through a search. In the examples I found some of the commonalities were that camp attendees old enough for vaccination weren’t vaccinated, they were in areas with low vaccination rates, and/or masks were not required.

Cases are meaningless- it's hospitalizations and deaths. The media is including data from January 2021 to now to make unvaccinated numbers higher. Question everything.

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Cases are meaningless- it's hospitalizations and deaths.[b] The media is including data from January 2021 to now to make unvaccinated numbers higher. Question everything.

They can't hear you though.

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Cases aren’t meaningless when the local metrics go by cases. I don’t know why you don’t understand that yet. Your personal metrics aren’t the community metrics.

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This is scary: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

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Anonymous wrote:This is scary: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

This is not good. From my memory, the hospitaliztion rate used to be 1%. How is it now 10%???

Currently, roughly 10 percent of those children who test positive do require hospitalization,” said Dr. Jim Versalovic, Pathologist-in-Chief and Interim Pediatrician-in-Chief at Texas Children’s Hospital, “and roughly one-third of those may require critical care.”

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Anonymous wrote:This is scary: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

This is not good. From my memory, the hospitaliztion rate used to be 1%. How is it now 10%???

Currently, roughly 10 percent of those children who test positive do require hospitalization,” said Dr. Jim Versalovic, Pathologist-in-Chief and Interim Pediatrician-in-Chief at Texas Children’s Hospital, “and roughly one-third of those may require critical care.”

Is that of all kids testing positive, or a subset?

Might be a different denominator, right?

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Anonymous wrote:This is scary: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

This is not good. From my memory, the hospitaliztion rate used to be 1%. How is it now 10%???

Currently, roughly 10 percent of those children who test positive do require hospitalization,” said Dr. Jim Versalovic, Pathologist-in-Chief and Interim Pediatrician-in-Chief at Texas Children’s Hospital, “and roughly one-third of those may require critical care.”

Is that of all kids testing positive, or a subset?

Might be a different denominator, right?

The AAP publishes a weekly report on pediatric covid cases. It says that the hospitalization rate for kids still averages 0.9% (for the data they have, which appears to be 23 states + NYC). The date is summarized here and it links to the full report.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

We weren't really screening in the spring but if teachers saw a student with symptoms they would send them down to the clinic.

My kid's school had a thermal sensor at the entrance.

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Anonymous wrote:This is scary: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

This is not good. From my memory, the hospitaliztion rate used to be 1%. How is it now 10%???

Currently, roughly 10 percent of those children who test positive do require hospitalization,” said Dr. Jim Versalovic, Pathologist-in-Chief and Interim Pediatrician-in-Chief at Texas Children’s Hospital, “and roughly one-third of those may require critical care.”

Is that of all kids testing positive, or a subset?

Might be a different denominator, right?

I wonder if this is a result of hospitals' testing all patients. So the kids are positive for COVID, and require hospitalization, but not because of the COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:Will they be screening for COVID symptoms?

We weren't really screening in the spring but if teachers saw a student with symptoms they would send them down to the clinic.

My kid's school had a thermal sensor at the entrance.

Which school had that?