I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

Half of it is a small SAHM message board brigade hoping for a repeat of 2020.

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Covid is not flu. Long covid is out there and not understood. All that said, we have to have in person school and I support vaccination and masks.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid is not flu. Long covid is out there and not understood. All that said, we have to have in person school and I support vaccination and masks.

Vaccines are therapeutic for long Covid if you weren’t aware. And I’m way less worried about long Covid than schools being closed or at reduced capacity because people are paranoid about the unknown. Lack of evidence isn’t evidence. Evidence says schools should open.

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Anonymous wrote:Three facts to keep in mind. No idea how this will play out, but let's not lie to ourselves.

1) Last spring schools were not at full capacity and to kids were (generally) socially distancing. This summer, schools were even less full. From a purely analytic perspective, you cannot say that Fall MUST yield the same results.

2) Delta is spreading 50% faster than Alpha, which was 50% more contagious than the original strain of SARS-CoV-2

3) Kids almost never do not die of covid. The rates of long term covid and it's effects of covid are unclear.

Regarding number 1, we have examples that were darn close to full capacity. I teach a grade level that about 85% of the students in person. Some of us had all of our students in person. A teammate of mine had all 21 of the students in school.

I’d love to know in which school kids were generally social distancing last spring and how they were doing so.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid is not flu. Long covid is out there and not understood. All that said, we have to have in person school and I support vaccination and masks.

Nobody is saying this. Comparing the two situationally is not saying they are the same.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Uh … yes they did. Look at fully open states Covid numbers for schools.

Do you have the stats?
What were the numbers regarding community spread? What percentage of the population was vaccinated? Were they masked in schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

As a teacher, I’m not panicked. I am just trying to anticipate what leadership might do because I cannot STAND last minute upheavals. Last year was a nightmare for me.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Uh … yes they did. Look at fully open states Covid numbers for schools.

Do you have the stats?
What were the numbers regarding community spread? What percentage of the population was vaccinated? Were they masked in schools?

Please don’t rehash this argument. It’s so counterintuitive. Covid spreads wherever people breathe. That is why masks and vaccines help. Let’s just leave it at that.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

As a teacher, I’m not panicked. I am just trying to anticipate what leadership might do because I cannot STAND last minute upheavals. Last year was a nightmare for me.

I don’t think you need to explain what a nightmare it was. Trust me, the parents who aren’t also teachers feel the same way. There is a tiny faction of parents who are utterly paranoid about Covid. The rest of us moved on when we got our shots.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

As a teacher, I’m not panicked. I am just trying to anticipate what leadership might do because I cannot STAND last minute upheavals. Last year was a nightmare for me.

That’s how I feel. As a vaccinated teacher I feel safe. Presumably the kids I teach in person will feel safe or their parents would have chosen the remote option that anyone who wanted it was offered. My kids can’t be vaccinated yet but I have accepted they’ll probably get it at some point and almost certainly be fine. I am simply trying to look at the stats and the situation with full knowledge person + unvaccinated kids + delta objectively to try to determine what the plan is because like the teacher PP said the hardest part of last year was how stuff was CONSTANTLY changing up.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Uh … yes they did. Look at fully open states Covid numbers for schools.

Do you have the stats?
What were the numbers regarding community spread? What percentage of the population was vaccinated? Were they masked in schools?[/quote]

Please don’t rehash this argument. It’s so counterintuitive. Covid spreads wherever people breathe. That is why masks and vaccines help. Let’s just leave it at that.

Those questions match up to your point.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

Sorry. This is just wrong on so many levels.

Wrong is being in a pandemic and forcing kids to stay home for weeks on end and not allowing them to have access to the class in HS. My kid will be in 10th grade with 4 AP courses. They will fly past material and he cannot afford to miss school. And when he is applying to colleges no college will say oh well he did poorly in 10th due his week long + quarantine due to covid in 2021.

Or you could have them drop a couple AP classes... Oh no...

We are in a pandemic. If you choose in person, you are understanding the risks involved.

So do you and your risk is that someone sends a covid+ to school so they won't miss class and fall behind.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

And it's because of sociopaths like you that I'll be teaching in a mask and getting nowhere near students this year. Immune escape is bound to happen sooner or later--our classrooms are packed like sardine cans.

Blame the school district and horrible quarantine rules and unforgiving HS teachers

No, blame the idiots who won't get vaccinated. At this point they're 100% responsible for any lack of normalcy.

No, partly to blame. Plus, the vaccinated folks having breakthrough cases who are all traveling, socializing, etc. as well as those who are allowing their kids to do it. KIDS are not vaccinated. Kids can get and spread covid. Kids will be the ones spreading it in schools. And, the parents lie.

Although they didn't spread it in school last spring and they will be masked.

Delta wasn't here last spring.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people this concerned during flu season? No? Then get it together.

You know you’re not allowed to make this comparison!! Haha

But, flu was rampant in fall 2019 and spreading like crazy at our middle school. We did nothing different with our kids.

Exactly. I don’t get this panic! Your vaccine will protect you from serious illness, and young children are way less at risk from seriousness illness with Covid than MANY other diseases that they could get every year!

As a teacher, I’m not panicked. I am just trying to anticipate what leadership might do because I cannot STAND last minute upheavals. Last year was a nightmare for me.

That’s how I feel. As a vaccinated teacher I feel safe. Presumably the kids I teach in person will feel safe or their parents would have chosen the remote option that anyone who wanted it was offered. My kids can’t be vaccinated yet but I have accepted they’ll probably get it at some point and almost certainly be fine. I am simply trying to look at the stats and the situation with full knowledge person + unvaccinated kids + delta objectively to try to determine what the plan is because like the teacher PP said the hardest part of last year was how stuff was CONSTANTLY changing up.

This is inaccurate. Anyone who wanted remote could not take it. You had to show a medical reason.