Teacher turnover

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care if teachers leave. Everyone is replaceable. I just want my kids back in class, in front of ANY teacher.

You can say that, but i work in admin at a WOTP school in DCPS and we can’t fill all of our vacancies because the pool is so shallow. You will most likely see those positions filled by first year teachers or TFA type who are only around for two years.

Judging by most teachers' comments on DCUM, it seems that most teachers hate their jobs. Maybe it's a good thing if they quit. We can replace them with people who actually want to educate children.

Not a great business model. High turnover requires costly recruiting and training and has a negative impact on school climate and academic achievement. However, if all you're looking for is free childcare, maybe it makes sense.

...Yeah. Hmmm, right. Yup, they are busting down the doors to teach!

[Anonymous]

People say it would be great to have new people there who "actually want to teach" but what you might get is a brand new teacher that hasn't honed their classroom management skills or a sub that is basically just an adult body. So, good luck with that "good riddance" attitude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People say it would be great to have new people there who "actually want to teach" but what you might get is a brand new teacher that hasn't honed their classroom management skills or a sub that is basically just an adult body. So, good luck with that "good riddance" attitude.

+1

I’m not sure about this attitude either. First year teachers are very rarely effective at their jobs. And your kid only has the teacher for one year so that is basically an academic year of minimal learning.

That’s not a slight on first year teachers, it’s just the truth.

[Anonymous]

I left in June and my position still hasn't been filled. Telling people to "just leave" if they are unhappy is not a viable longterm solution.

[Anonymous]

Some teachers have quit and some have not.
What I’ll never understand is the teachers who left that exhibit a ‘burn it down’ mentality. It’s like you want the sky to fall.

Presumably you left for something better. Rest in that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some teachers have quit and some have not.
What I’ll never understand is the teachers who left that exhibit a ‘burn it down’ mentality. It’s like you want the sky to fall.

Presumably you left for something better. Rest in that

I get what you are saying. I think when you might get that sense of a burn it down mentality, you are hearing the tremendous frustration of teachers. It isn't really a true desire to see public ed implode. It's more of a "omg, PAY ATTENTION and DO SOMETHING!!!!" mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some teachers have quit and some have not.
What I’ll never understand is the teachers who left that exhibit a ‘burn it down’ mentality. It’s like you want the sky to fall.

Presumably you left for something better. Rest in that

Can you say more about this?

[Anonymous]

PP is suggesting teachers who are bitter about leaving, probably not on their terms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

[Anonymous]

Today is the first day of new teacher orientation for DCPS. If that’s you, welcome. We’re excited you’re here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

UNDERSTAFFED? We have one the biggest central office (for number of students) in the country.