NPS: Ban Cars Now in DC Urban Parks

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DP: Notice how the.cyclists.are using pedestrian deaths to advance a pro-cyclist (not a pedestrian) agenda. It really is very disgusting. Cyclists don't care about pedestrains. Pedestrians are just pawns in their war with cars.

PP, we're all anonymous here. How do you know which of the posts come from people who ride a bike? Let alone who exclusively ride a bike and never, ever walk (assuming that's even possible)?

Because pedestrians need a car to get to Hains Point. You're not trying to help pedestrians.

The only ways to get to Hains Point are (1) by car and (2) by bike? That seems like a problem.

There's a bus stop as well, IIRC. And you can walk from a couple of Metro stops, if you really want to.

The park isn't in a residential area, so it's never going to be easy to get there on foot, based on distances to the nearest residential areas in Foggy Bottom,

cars could be limited to a few parking lots. they do not need access to the whole park. people who need to bring a ton of stuff can just find a picnic spot near the lot, or get a few wagons.

The vast majority of East Potomac Park is a golf course. Vehicles only have access to the perimeter to begin with. The recreation area is effectively just the point. One of the open parking lots has to be the one at the playground/picnic area. You could easily close just the tip and direct cars through the lot.

I’m sure there are many potential solutions to prevent some of the most beautiful and rare waterfront spances from being nothing more than a road to a parking lot.

Only one subset of a subset of users is trying to prevent everyone else from enjoying the park

one subset of users is actively preventing other people from using the park now, and actually killed some of them.

So let's prevent the victims from accessing the park! Makes total sense. Your proposal is anti-pedestrian. Those cars arent going on Sunday drives.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

DC has 679,000 people. Discounting the elderly and very young children, that leaves about 490,000 cyclists.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

Cyclist and train guys that defend maximizing corrupt developers profit margins has got to be the weirdest group of people to emerge over the past decade. I’m sorry you drank the GGW cool air.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really warming up to the idea of putting in a bunch of speed bumps on Ohio Drive in East Potomac Park. It will slow down cars AND ruin one of the most popular cycle routes in the area.

+1

This is the centrist position and I wholly agree with it.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

Cyclist and train guys that defend maximizing corrupt developers profit margins has got to be the weirdest group of people to emerge over the past decade. I’m sorry you drank the GGW cool air.

Facts are facts.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

This is the dumbest talking point. So if there's something I like, I should also like it in endless quantities? If I want to drink a beer, then I'm being inconsistent if I don't awant to drink 50 beers?

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

This is the dumbest talking point. So if there's something I like, I should also like it in endless quantities? If I want to drink a beer, then I'm being inconsistent if I don't awant to drink 50 beers?

If not for a developer, you'd be living in a tent under a bridge.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

This is the dumbest talking point. So if there's something I like, I should also like it in endless quantities? If I want to drink a beer, then I'm being inconsistent if I don't awant to drink 50 beers?

If not for a developer, you'd be living in a tent under a bridge.

You sound like Trump.

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I really miss the days when the taxi commission was the most corrupt part of DC. How anyone can defend developers and then complain about bad governance in DC is beyond me. You may want to check out who’s funding and friends with the politicians your blame for things being crap. You might be surprised.

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This is such a stupid argument. We need more housing. How builds housing? Developers.

Do we expect that DC should just put up a sign that says "we are done?" - no more hew housing, no more construction, no more new residents?

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a stupid argument. We need more housing. How builds housing? Developers.

Do we expect that DC should just put up a sign that says "we are done?" - no more hew housing, no more construction, no more new residents?

NP. (Actually OP but getting involved in this stupid derail.) Obviously we need developers. This thread has attracted some weird subculture of anti-YIMBYs now who want to attribute any calls for improving the city to “train guys.” It’s really dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:All this anti-car stuff seems so silly. The vast majority of people in DC drive. Almost no one in DC rides bikes. How about: Majority rules?

sure, why not just sell Hains Point to the highest bidder and let developers rip it all up and build condos?

Most people in DC hate developers and would be happy to see an end of any condos being built

Most people in DC live in housing that was built by developers.

And many people in DC live in condos that were built by developers.

This is the dumbest talking point. So if there's something I like, I should also like it in endless quantities? If I want to drink a beer, then I'm being inconsistent if I don't awant to drink 50 beers?

If not for a developer, you'd be living in a tent under a bridge.

You sound like Trump.

Because he tells it exactly like it is.

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That's hilarious. And sad. Good morning, MAGA loser.