Wednesday Meeting on MSI Soccer Stadium take over of Julius West Middle School fields

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Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

[Anonymous]

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MSI continues to be hyper focused on themselves and clueless about the neighborhood.

The issue with overflow parking is that the fields have been used as overflow parking on busy school nights. That use has now been removed by MSI for their own purposes. Overflow parking will be where now for school events? MSI has not come up with a solution to that issue yet.

That's not an MSI issue, that's a MCPS issue. And there are some pretty obvious solutions, starting with one that they're apparently already using: a shuttle bus from a satellite parking location. The neighbors should also approve of this solution, since it means less traffic to/from JW during the rare big school events like Back To School Night.

It's MSI's problem now. They demanded this field. They created the problem.

That's really not how things work.

I wonder what would happen if city residents started telling the city council they don’t want an MOU for this? MSI would never be able to use those fields. Sounds like MSI is not politically savvy.

MSI will sue and demand their $2.4M back in court, court fees, other costs! Good luck with that!!

Except earlier in the thread it was mentioned that MSI didn't get the city permits. That's not a winning hand!

[Anonymous]

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Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

They must follow all city ordinances including lighting and noise. Why do you think you get to build your stadium inside the City of Rockville and ignore our laws?

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Anonymous wrote: I think you hit the nail on the head. Lyda, how many of these negative, nasty posts are from you, and others from the Parent Coalition? Clearly the people with kids at Julius West, and kids who play MSI who have had their schedules messed up for 4 weeks now (like mine), are happy with the fields and want them open!

Most of the discussion here has been about parking and bathrooms.

Do you realize that MSI has been using the JW grass field for years? My DD team practiced here for the last two years. We also had games here too.

No one Parent Coalition ever mentioned about parking and/or bathrooms previously until the turf field was built.

Note: MSI indicated that the field will not be used any differently or any more than was previously used when it had grass (I.e. same amount of practices, games, players and parents).

People please calm down. MSI is working this out. This dispute has nothing to do with these nutcase parents complaining about parking and bathrooms. Sadly these parents have nothing to do but check and recheck the MD Public Schools forum on DCUM. The dispute is about $$ and who is going to pay for maintenance of the turf fields. MSI does not want to pay for maintenance as that was not in the original contract. They will hopefully work it out and our kids will be playing on the beautiful new turf field under the lights before we know it. Frankly, I don't care if MSI pays for it or not. I only care that my kid can play soccer on the new fields as was planned all along.

Here's a little advice for the crazy parents posting here about parking and bathrooms...the weather has been glorious. Maybe step away from the keyboard and take a walk. Get your mind off the negative and move on.

With the lighted fields, people can even take walks, jog and/or do other exercises when it gets dark especially during the winter months when it gets dark around 6:30om.

You must not be from around here. The City of Rockville is a very safe place and people often walk after dark in complete safety. I walk my dog and see others doing the same as well as jogging after dark and no one has any problems. Again, maybe you are new here or from some other part of the county and don't know anything about Rockville. The City of Rockville even has it's own police department that are fast to respond to all calls. Much faster than the county cops you would call. People don't want bright stadium lights shining into their house windows after their kid's bedtimes. The City of Rockville has complete authority over ordinances within the city. If they want, the City Council could make it impossible for MSI to ever use that field.

I lived in Rockville since 1979. Sign up for the weekly Rockville Crime Report.

It’s called directional lights. Go look at Wootton HS before you complain about lights shining on people’s houses. Gee Wiz!!

The lighting report has already been completed and the City of Rockville, MSI and MCPS all know that the lights will shine on to 270, the ramps and on to Falls Road and neighbors.

Where can drivers purchase black out curtains for their cars as they drive by these stadium lights?

You are stupid to think that the MDOT & Rockville would approve a lighting system that would affect driving on I-270. Please show your source.

It hasn't been approved!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

They must follow all city ordinances including lighting and noise. Why do you think you get to build your stadium inside the City of Rockville and ignore our laws?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about city light or noise ordinances?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about parking at back-to-school nights?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

They must follow all city ordinances including lighting and noise. Why do you think you get to build your stadium inside the City of Rockville and ignore our laws?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about city light or noise ordinances?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about parking at back-to-school nights?

MSI claims it's "between MCPS and City of Rockville".

[Anonymous]

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MSI continues to be hyper focused on themselves and clueless about the neighborhood.

The issue with overflow parking is that the fields have been used as overflow parking on busy school nights. That use has now been removed by MSI for their own purposes. Overflow parking will be where now for school events? MSI has not come up with a solution to that issue yet.

That's not an MSI issue, that's a MCPS issue. And there are some pretty obvious solutions, starting with one that they're apparently already using: a shuttle bus from a satellite parking location. The neighbors should also approve of this solution, since it means less traffic to/from JW during the rare big school events like Back To School Night.

It's MSI's problem now. They demanded this field. They created the problem.

That's really not how things work.

But it is. MSI can't use the field now because of the problems they created. It's their move to solve them if they want to use the field.

If MSI can’t use the field, then MCPS is in breach of contract. MCPS will have to pay back $2.4M and might have to pay other costs from their breach of contract. MCPS will then have to go after the city of Rockville. Guess who pays at the end? All of you tax paying citizens.

The city of Rockville has extensive regulations for building. More than the rest of the county. MSI screwed up. They will lose every lawsuit because they didn't follow the law. I'd like to see the City of Rockville look into if they can fine them a few million dollars too.

Are you stupid? MSI didn’t build the field. MCPS did. Under the settlement agreement, MSI paid $2.4M to MCPS. MCPS is responsible for the planning, design, construction company proposal review and award, and construction oversight and management. MCPS is required to work with Rockville City not MSI.

Please think before you post stupid or outrageous comments.

[Anonymous]

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Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

They must follow all city ordinances including lighting and noise. Why do you think you get to build your stadium inside the City of Rockville and ignore our laws?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about city light or noise ordinances?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about parking at back-to-school nights?

MSI claims it's "between MCPS and City of Rockville".

So nobody here knows what the dispute is actually about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

They must follow all city ordinances including lighting and noise. Why do you think you get to build your stadium inside the City of Rockville and ignore our laws?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about city light or noise ordinances?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about parking at back-to-school nights?

MSI claims it's "between MCPS and City of Rockville".

It is. The MOU is between MCPS and Rockville. MSI has a settlement agreement with MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Every time a candidate for city council comes to my door over the next month, I'm going to tell them, I do not support any MOU with MCPS for the MSI stadium lighting until all requirements are met. Why some outside group thinks they can come in and tell us how to run our city is beyond me.

And when they ask you which requirements haven't been met, you'll tell them...?

(And I don't mean the requirements you think there should be. I mean the requirements that there actually are.)

They must follow all city ordinances including lighting and noise. Why do you think you get to build your stadium inside the City of Rockville and ignore our laws?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about city light or noise ordinances?

Is the dispute between MSI and the City of Rockville about parking at back-to-school nights?

MSI claims it's "between MCPS and City of Rockville".

So nobody here knows what the dispute is actually about?

Sounds like it.

[Anonymous]

Please read this links below. MCPS is responsible for all construction matters, not MSI.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/boe/meetings/memorandum/180725%20Artificial%20Turf%20Fields%2006-12-18-07%20BD(1).PDF

https://www.bidnet.com/bneattachments?/506337520.pdf

https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/AZEH84473086/$file/Award%20Cont%20Turf%20Install%20Julius%20West%20MS%20Albert%20Einstein%20HS.pdf

[Anonymous]

So we've got the people who hate MSI and the people who hate MCPS on this thread. Now I'm just waiting for the people who hate the Rockville City Council, or at least the members of the Rockville City Council who voted for Twinbrook Quarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we've got the people who hate MSI and the people who hate MCPS on this thread. Now I'm just waiting for the people who hate the Rockville City Council, or at least the members of the Rockville City Council who voted for Twinbrook Quarter.

No one hates MCPS or Rockville. What we hate is the outrageous lies, misinformation and the craziness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we've got the people who hate MSI and the people who hate MCPS on this thread. Now I'm just waiting for the people who hate the Rockville City Council, or at least the members of the Rockville City Council who voted for Twinbrook Quarter.

Everyone that uses City of Rockville services and does not live in the city seems to hate the city because they aren't citizens. They don't want to pay the city taxes but they want a say in what the city does!

[Anonymous]

I am appalled that we are wasting this kind of money on fields that cause cancer. The rise in soccer goalie blood cancers is not a coincidence.

So many over crowded schools and we are taking money from MSI for rubber fields on school grounds? Pretty pathetic.