Affirmative Action should be income-based, not race-based

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

“Addicted to racism” = don’t want to stop being a racist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

I’ve been saying race + SES. Who is pushing just race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

Liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

Not liberals.

The illiberal fakes that pose as "liberals" in the US.

We should just call them racists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The flood of white tears in this thread is amazing. Of all the problems minority kids face today, this is what you guys cry about.

The disdain for white folks in this thread, who lose college seats to those less qualified, is amazing. I wonder if the bigota going on about "white trash" are black?

And being kept out of med school, a lifelong dream, so that a lesser scoring minority gets in instead of you is a big deal.

Why is med school your lifelong dream? Do you hope to help heal the sick, and reduce the suffering in the world? There are many other professions where you can do this, and not worry about the limited number of spots. You could be a nurse, or a physician's assistant. Or go into medical research, and maybe get a PhD, help find cures for some of these diseases.

Or is med school your lifelong dream because you want to make a lot of money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

Not liberals.

The illiberal fakes that pose as "liberals" in the US.

We should just call them racists.

Hey now... let's not call them racists. Liberals have good intentions even if they've chosen a path that includes support for racist policies like affirmative action. Just because someone supports a racist policy, doesn't mean they are racists. They may think the racist policy is a temporary corrective measure to achieve greater equality. We can attack the evil of racist policies, but lets not call our liberal friends "racists".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The flood of white tears in this thread is amazing. Of all the problems minority kids face today, this is what you guys cry about.

The disdain for white folks in this thread, who lose college seats to those less qualified, is amazing. I wonder if the bigota going on about "white trash" are black?

And being kept out of med school, a lifelong dream, so that a lesser scoring minority gets in instead of you is a big deal.

Why is med school your lifelong dream? Do you hope to help heal the sick, and reduce the suffering in the world? There are many other professions where you can do this, and not worry about the limited number of spots. You could be a nurse, or a physician's assistant. Or go into medical research, and maybe get a PhD, help find cures for some of these diseases.

Or is med school your lifelong dream because you want to make a lot of money?

1) If making a lot of money was my dream, I'd be an overpaid lawyer - like many on DCUM. Med school is much tougher than law school.

2) I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about a white person who has dreamed of med school his entire life, earned nearly all As, and found himself displaced by a black kid with a B average because.....he's black.

3) And why should the more academically accomplished white student have to dial back his dream, and instead become a PA or nurse, so a black stident with lower grades can get HIS dream of med school? Why aren't you asking why the lower-scoring black student adjust HIS goals and become a PA? Why should the white kid make the sacrifice when he is the better student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The flood of white tears in this thread is amazing. Of all the problems minority kids face today, this is what you guys cry about.

The disdain for white folks in this thread, who lose college seats to those less qualified, is amazing. I wonder if the bigota going on about "white trash" are black?

And being kept out of med school, a lifelong dream, so that a lesser scoring minority gets in instead of you is a big deal.

Why is med school your lifelong dream? Do you hope to help heal the sick, and reduce the suffering in the world? There are many other professions where you can do this, and not worry about the limited number of spots. You could be a nurse, or a physician's assistant. Or go into medical research, and maybe get a PhD, help find cures for some of these diseases.

Or is med school your lifelong dream because you want to make a lot of money?

It does not matter what you think of someone's dream, whether it is worthy or if their motivation is pure. The point is that for generations, blacks were disadvantaged due purely to the color of their skin, and now we are doing the same to other races. There is no justification for racism, no justification for trading off one person's desires for the benefit of someone else based on the color of skin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

Not liberals.

The illiberal fakes that pose as "liberals" in the US.

We should just call them racists.

Hey now... let's not call them racists. Liberals have good intentions even if they've chosen a path that includes support for racist policies like affirmative action. Just because someone supports a racist policy, doesn't mean they are racists. They may think the racist policy is a temporary corrective measure to achieve greater equality. We can attack the evil of racist policies, but lets not call our liberal friends "racists".

Mao had plenty of good intentions...and he murdered 50 million people.

We need to judge people and policies based on results, not intentions.

Anyone who supports racial discrimination is a racist. End of the story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
When 6% of the population commits over 50% of violent crimes then you get profiled. Why not drill down on why that level of criminality exists instead of whining about the results. These are DOJ statistics BTW.....go look them up.

OK, so then since the majority of mass shooters tend to be white males, we should profile ALL white males, and do double background checks and mental health checks when they go to buy a gun. Instead of whining about your rights being taken away, why not drill down to that level of criminality and why most of the mass shooters tend to be white males?

See how that works?

Fine by me. As long as you do the same for black males buying guns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The flood of white tears in this thread is amazing. Of all the problems minority kids face today, this is what you guys cry about.

The disdain for white folks in this thread, who lose college seats to those less qualified, is amazing. I wonder if the bigota going on about "white trash" are black?

And being kept out of med school, a lifelong dream, so that a lesser scoring minority gets in instead of you is a big deal.

Why is med school your lifelong dream? Do you hope to help heal the sick, and reduce the suffering in the world? There are many other professions where you can do this, and not worry about the limited number of spots. You could be a nurse, or a physician's assistant. Or go into medical research, and maybe get a PhD, help find cures for some of these diseases.

Or is med school your lifelong dream because you want to make a lot of money?

LOL about making a lot of money on medicine. That’s why smart men are going into financial careers rather than medicine. There is no money except for top specialists. I make more money than my surgeon who did a 3 year residency, post residency and has been in practice for 10 years. She said her income has gone down and costs increased in 10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

Not liberals.

The illiberal fakes that pose as "liberals" in the US.

We should just call them racists.

Hey now... let's not call them racists. Liberals have good intentions even if they've chosen a path that includes support for racist policies like affirmative action. Just because someone supports a racist policy, doesn't mean they are racists. They may think the racist policy is a temporary corrective measure to achieve greater equality. We can attack the evil of racist policies, but lets not call our liberal friends "racists".

Mao had plenty of good intentions...and he murdered 50 million people.

We need to judge people and policies based on results, not intentions.

Anyone who supports racial discrimination is a racist. End of the story.

I would disagree that Mao had good intentions. He may have started out with good intentions but those intentions changed after he gained power. Instead of focusing on the betterment of the people, his goals changed to the elimination of political opposition. People, on the whole, are selfish, and a selfish person wants a world that is just, because an unjust world is not a world that a selfish person wants to be in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are fundamentally right but as you can see too many folks are still addicted to racism.

It's like a virus, and no effective treatment exists.

OP here, and thank you.

What some of the people around here who are saying that we still need race-based AA because blacks still are trailing seem unable to comprehend is that an SES-based AA policy would still help poor blacks. It seems to me that they are arguing that AFFLUENT blacks should still get the advantage too, even though that discriminates angainst poor whites. That is what is racist.

liberals need to keep blacks thinking they are the victim class and that whites are all racist

Not liberals.

The illiberal fakes that pose as "liberals" in the US.

We should just call them racists.

Hey now... let's not call them racists. Liberals have good intentions even if they've chosen a path that includes support for racist policies like affirmative action. Just because someone supports a racist policy, doesn't mean they are racists. They may think the racist policy is a temporary corrective measure to achieve greater equality. We can attack the evil of racist policies, but lets not call our liberal friends "racists".

I will continue to consider my liberal neighbors racists because everyone of them told me they came to the area for schools, that is the 99% white schools.