Official Abortion Thread

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That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.
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The fatal flaw in your argument is your belief that abortion opponents care about outcomes for women. They don't.


They usually care about public assistance, though.


They'd happily take that away too. They literally do not care if women die in a gutter.
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If a woman shows up at a hospital, losing her pregnancy - how will you determine who is having a miscarriage and who deliberately ended it? Pregnancy loss from taking an abortion pill is indistinguishable from miscarriage.


Still no input on this one. Hmmmm.


Do Todd should be required to perform blood tests on any woman who is miscarrying to detect if she's used drugs, alcohol, or nicotine so she can be prosecuted for murder if positive.

They should also be required to report all miscarriages for further investigation. If she's previously expressed regret over being pregnant, she can be prosecuted.

Pharmacists should report any woman who fills a prescription for misoprostol.

These can all go into a database for cross referencing a data mining. If a woman is more likely to be in a situation where she's more likely to want an abortion .. ie. Multiple children already, poor, student, teenager... that can be used to determine who should be investigated further.



So basically take away all of a woman’s rights to privacy. Got it.

You’re a monster.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:


That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:


That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!


On contrary, we don't want them reproducing at all. They continue cycles of poverty.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:


That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!


On contrary, we don't want them reproducing at all. They continue cycles of poverty.


But without poverty, you can’t instill fear and win elections. It’s the MAGA/Hitler way!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:


That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!


And send the impovershed boys off to fight their wars, while their rich kids get off for "bone spurs."

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!


And send the impovershed boys off to fight their wars, while their rich kids get off for "bone spurs."



Let’s all take advice from George Carlin on abortion. What a collection of loons posting here.
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Anonymous wrote:


That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!


And send the impovershed boys off to fight their wars, while their rich kids get off for "bone spurs."



Let’s all take advice from George Carlin on abortion. What a collection of loons posting here.


Huh. You don't want to take advice from George Carlin, but you think women should take reproductive medical advice from male politicians? That's pretty special!
Anonymous
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That's a feature, not a bug. Rich (Republican) girls get abortions, go to graduate school, then SAH with kids and a wealthy husband. Poor (Democrat) girls have their baby, get a GED, and spend a lifetime juggling multiple jobs with low pay as a single mother.

Trust me, Republican politicians know EXACTLY what they are doing.


They need to fill the country with poorly educated women who are fearful and impoverished so that’s they can fill massage salons and get the votes!


On contrary, we don't want them reproducing at all. They continue cycles of poverty.


But without poverty, you can’t instill fear and win elections. It’s the MAGA/Hitler way!


It’s also much more difficult to make money running private prisons.
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look, I'm sorry you don't like these reasons. I get it.

BUT, then help us to reduce the need by providing free birth control (including LARCS), comprehensive sex education (not abstinence only propaganda), affordable and accessible health care, assistance to low income mothers and children and affordable and accessible child care.

If you aren't willing to do these things, the need for abortion will remain.


This.
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No, you got it all wrong. We don't want you to procreate at all. Use birth control, have as much sex as you want, don't procreate.


Bullshit. The right loses its mind every time you try to teach kids about birth control or make birth control more easily available. These are the same assholes who oppose the HPV vaccine even though it prevents cervical cancer because getting the vaccine encourages promiscuity.


We don't want it for our kids. You can do whatever you want. As long as you are sterilized.

Even sterilization has failure rates.


Ummm, no it wouldn't, because both partners would get sterilized.


What if they’re not done having children yet?


They forfeited their right to have children by allowing slaughter of over 60 million of Americans since RwW. Despite historically unprecedented freedom of choice of contraceptives, despite all rights and amazing opportunities, you chose careless sex and abortion as a form of contraception. The more choices you had to not procreate at a whim the more disdain you showed for unborn life. Sometimes having too many choices clearly leads to complete moral demise. No, please don't start with rape and incest. Everyone knows this is the tiny percentage of all abortions. Stop using rape and incest as proxy for easy access to murder for convenience.


You're welcome to have your own religion but you don't get to enforce your religion on other people.


I am an atheist. The secular pro-life movement is growing as fast as religious one. One does not need fairytales to clearly see a human being on the ultrasound. One does not need religion to understand that zygote and onwards is a person. You just need brain cells.


Cool. So, quick hypothetical for you: you're in an IVF clinic, and the clinic is burning down. On your right is a canister with 5000 frozen fertilized eggs. On your left is a screaming 3 year old. You can't carry both. Which do you leave behind?


Funny how you can never get a pro-life person to answer that question.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Duh, didn’t you hear that sex is a luxury and you should only be doing it to procreate?

It’s all very simple according to the forced birthers


Unless you’re a man! Men don’t suffer consequences ever!


Except— who are the men having sex with? Each other?
Anonymous
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If a woman shows up at a hospital, losing her pregnancy - how will you determine who is having a miscarriage and who deliberately ended it? Pregnancy loss from taking an abortion pill is indistinguishable from miscarriage.


Still no input on this one. Hmmmm.


Do Todd should be required to perform blood tests on any woman who is miscarrying to detect if she's used drugs, alcohol, or nicotine so she can be prosecuted for murder if positive.

They should also be required to report all miscarriages for further investigation. If she's previously expressed regret over being pregnant, she can be prosecuted.

Pharmacists should report any woman who fills a prescription for misoprostol.

These can all go into a database for cross referencing a data mining. If a woman is more likely to be in a situation where she's more likely to want an abortion .. ie. Multiple children already, poor, student, teenager... that can be used to determine who should be investigated further.



So according to Georgia law it is a felony to unwittingly harm a child so even just the act of having a miscarriage is a cause for arrest if you define personhood to a seed week blastocute /fetus. I'm not sure if you would be arrested in the doctor's office or they would let you recuperate from bleeding or d/c before being arrested.

Undoubtedly with the discretion of the law enforcement and judges most likely they would prosecute poor and vulnerable women for the crime of having a miscarriage
Anonymous
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No, you got it all wrong. We don't want you to procreate at all. Use birth control, have as much sex as you want, don't procreate.


Bullshit. The right loses its mind every time you try to teach kids about birth control or make birth control more easily available. These are the same assholes who oppose the HPV vaccine even though it prevents cervical cancer because getting the vaccine encourages promiscuity.


We don't want it for our kids. You can do whatever you want. As long as you are sterilized.

Even sterilization has failure rates.


Ummm, no it wouldn't, because both partners would get sterilized.


What if they’re not done having children yet?


They forfeited their right to have children by allowing slaughter of over 60 million of Americans since RwW. Despite historically unprecedented freedom of choice of contraceptives, despite all rights and amazing opportunities, you chose careless sex and abortion as a form of contraception. The more choices you had to not procreate at a whim the more disdain you showed for unborn life. Sometimes having too many choices clearly leads to complete moral demise. No, please don't start with rape and incest. Everyone knows this is the tiny percentage of all abortions. Stop using rape and incest as proxy for easy access to murder for convenience.


You're welcome to have your own religion but you don't get to enforce your religion on other people.




I am an atheist. The secular pro-life movement is growing as fast as religious one. One does not need fairytales to clearly see a human being on the ultrasound. One does not need religion to understand that zygote and onwards is a person. You just need brain cells.


Cool. So, quick hypothetical for you: you're in an IVF clinic, and the clinic is burning down. On your right is a canister with 5000 frozen fertilized eggs. On your left is a screaming 3 year old. You can't carry both. Which do you leave behind?


Funny how you can never get a pro-life person to answer that question.


It’s a stupid question because a canister of fertilized human eggs is stored in a special containment device that nobody would have access to.

Show me what clinic has 5,000 fertilized human eggs sitting on a counter and 3 year old roaming about screaming?

Here’s a real scenario: you are pregnant and want to finish your degree. Do you have your child and put it up for adoption and finish your degree, or do you kill your own child and finish your degree?
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