Is being bi-gender a "thing" at your kid's school?

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Anonymous wrote:For all those arguing that sex is binary, what do you think about people like Caster Semanya, who has both a vagina and internal testes, and is at a huge advantage competing against women because of testosterone levels?

My understanding is that Caster Semanya is intersex. It happens. Babies are sometimes born without legs, it doesn't change the fact that humans are bipedal. Intersex and transgender are not the same thing. So far, as I understand it, there is nothing in the research indicating that people who think they are transgender are intersex.

Caster Semanya is at an advantage competing against biological women. Caster Semanya was raised as a woman and had no reason to think she wasn't a woman and was competing as fairly as she could.

Caster is evidence that sexuality is fluid. She is an extreme example, but there are many less overt examples.

Caster has a vagina, but cannot bear children. With surgery to create a penis, her testes could be functional and she can be a father

So gender police, which bathroom should she use?

Caster is evidence that intersex exists, she is not proof that sexuality is fluid. Unless you're going to argue that a child born missing a leg is proof that humans are not bipedal?

And now I'm confused, are you arguing that sex is gender? Because you go from talking about Caster's intersex condition to concern about gender policing. If sex is gender, then the problem is solved, no? For everyone except the 1.7% of people who are intersex, they should use the bathroom of their sex. For intersex people, they should use the bathroom of the sex they have chosen.

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Anonymous wrote:My oldest is still in elementary school, but does activities with older kids and this is definitely a thing. I suspect some of the kids are really genderqueer or trans, and others are just playing with an identity like millennia of teens before them.

Yup. Some of them are trying to shock the olds, and hey look, it's working!

It sure is. DS is 16 and has two transgender friends. As in considering hormone therapy.

He also knows one girl who claims to be gender fluid. She says it for attention.

I was just talking to my friends about this yesterday. One works in a high school and says it's safe now so kids are coming out.

I was just talking to my friends about this yesterday. One works in a high school and says it's trendy now so kids are doing this, until they can come up with something else that idiotic parents/ administrators in charge are afraid to confront.


Fixed that one for you.

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PP why do you think this is up to school administrators to confront?
You fixed nothing since that isn'the what she said.

[Anonymous]

DCs have friends who were bi or LGBT in high school and are now hetero. But don't assume they are just pushing your buttons and treat it that way. It may be experimentation, or they may actually be that way.

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Anonymous wrote:DCs have friends who were bi or LGBT in high school and are now hetero. But don't assume they are just pushing your buttons and treat it that way. It may be experimentation, or they may actually be that way.

We are talking bi-gender here, not bisexual. These kids may actually be sexually attracted to two genders, but they are not actually two genders.

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Anonymous wrote:DCs have friends who were bi or LGBT in high school and are now hetero. But don't assume they are just pushing your buttons and treat it that way. It may be experimentation, or they may actually be that way.

We are talking bi-gender here, not bisexual. These kids may actually be sexually attracted to two genders, but they are not actually two genders.

I think pp's point is that in years past, kids experimented with a bisexual label, much like they are now experimenting with a transsexual label. I think where it can become worrisome is if the child experimenting with a transsexual label is taken seriously and given hormones and/or surgery. Clothes and hairstyles are temporary. Puberty-blockers are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCs have friends who were bi or LGBT in high school and are now hetero. But don't assume they are just pushing your buttons and treat it that way. It may be experimentation, or they may actually be that way.

We are talking bi-gender here, not bisexual. These kids may actually be sexually attracted to two genders, but they are not actually two genders.

I think pp's point is that in years past, kids experimented with a bisexual label, much like they are now experimenting with a transsexual label. I think where it can become worrisome is if the child experimenting with a transsexual label is taken seriously and given hormones and/or surgery. Clothes and hairstyles are temporary. Puberty-blockers are not.

Kids who identify as gender nonconforming or gender fluid are not transgender. They are not asking for surgery or hormone blockers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP why do you think this is up to school administrators to confront?
You fixed nothing since that isn'the what she said.

It would be nice if school administrators had the guts to say -- enough of this nonsense; it's not going to happen at school. Dress up like princesses all you want to at home, but you are in school to learn physics, math, chemistry, foreign languages and everything else that will make this country strong and competitive in the years ahead. We, as educators, are not here to indulge your fantasies and whims.

But of course the snowflake parents who believe that Johnny and Suzie are special and should be "expressing themselves," even to the point of distracting/ annoying/ amusing everyone else, would never stand for that.

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Anonymous wrote:PP why do you think this is up to school administrators to confront?
You fixed nothing since that isn'the what she said.

It would be nice if school administrators had the guts to say -- enough of this nonsense; it's not going to happen at school. Dress up like princesses all you want to at home, but you are in school to learn physics, math, chemistry, foreign languages and everything else that will make this country strong and competitive in the years ahead. We, as educators, are not here to indulge your fantasies and whims.

But of course the snowflake parents who believe that Johnny and Suzie are special and should be "expressing themselves," even to the point of distracting/ annoying/ amusing everyone else, would never stand for that.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP why do you think this is up to school administrators to confront?
You fixed nothing since that isn'the what she said.

It would be nice if school administrators had the guts to say -- enough of this nonsense; it's not going to happen at school. Dress up like princesses all you want to at home, but you are in school to learn physics, math, chemistry, foreign languages and everything else that will make this country strong and competitive in the years ahead. We, as educators, are not here to indulge your fantasies and whims.

But of course the snowflake parents who believe that Johnny and Suzie are special and should be "expressing themselves," even to the point of distracting/ annoying/ amusing everyone else, would never stand for that.

+1

I would prefer staff stay out of kids' personal lives unless asked or there is concern for their safety. Focus on teaching those classes.

Maybe school uniforms should come back, with everyone wearing the same thing. No skirts. Just matching pants and shirts.

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Also, no non-natural hair colors either, and one hair style. Maybe bowl cuts should come back.

No individuality at school.

[Anonymous]

Have any parents struggled with the burgeoning beastiality fad at all? It's beginning to be the new boundry pushing phenom. Each generation opens our eyes to new love.

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Anonymous wrote:Have any parents struggled with the burgeoning beastiality fad at all? It's beginning to be the new boundry pushing phenom. Each generation opens our eyes to new love.

Roll eyes.... please please please are you being sarcastic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP why do you think this is up to school administrators to confront?
You fixed nothing since that isn'the what she said.

It would be nice if school administrators had the guts to say -- enough of this nonsense; it's not going to happen at school. Dress up like princesses all you want to at home, but you are in school to learn physics, math, chemistry, foreign languages and everything else that will make this country strong and competitive in the years ahead. We, as educators, are not here to indulge your fantasies and whims.

But of course the snowflake parents who believe that Johnny and Suzie are special and should be "expressing themselves," even to the point of distracting/ annoying/ amusing everyone else, would never stand for that.

Yup. This shit wouldn't fly in European or Asian schools. I am travelling thru Europe and the US has become a laughingstock.

[Anonymous]

I have one "transgender" coworker, in his 60s. All he's interested in is makeup, hair, nails and dressing up. He has no idea what it means to be a woman and no real respect for women. He's just an exhibitionist who likes all the attention, in my view.