Is being bi-gender a "thing" at your kid's school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am horrified by this. Where are these kids' parents, and why are schools allowing this?

Apparently all this bi-gender stuff falls under the umbrella of transgender. When you hear about the uptick in trans teens most of them aren't trans in the way most of us think of it, but just more claiming to be both genders. Schools are terrified of doing anything that can be perceived as being hostile to gay or transgender students so they just let it go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

[Anonymous]

My oldest is still in elementary school, but does activities with older kids and this is definitely a thing. I suspect some of the kids are really genderqueer or trans, and others are just playing with an identity like millennia of teens before them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything gender is big now. Being trans or pan or cis or something gendered or non gendered. The list of options for gender grows all the time.

Now there are two more orientations being talked about...who you are attracted to and who you can fall in love with.

So you can be asexual, transgender bi-romantic teen

So, if your 15 year old comes out as a genderqueer pansexual is a parent's only option to keep their mouth shut and not tell the kid how loony this is?

Ya'll need to stop clutching your pearls. For.real. These are regular, envelope-pushing teens. It's this decade's (or year's) way of damning the man. Let them at it. Your parents probably felt the same way when you tried to wear a lace bra a la Madonna and nothing else. Take a deep breath, realize it's a phase, and yes, just keep your mouth shut. Just do you and provide the regular support and love for your family! If in 10 years they're still at it, accept it's their reality and since you've been dealing with it for 10 years already, no big deal now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

I think the pp misunderstood what the pp before her stated.

[Anonymous]

Haven't heard anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

I think the pp misunderstood what the pp before her stated.

She misunderstood me. I don't see a trend. And even if I saw a trend, I wouldn't see a problem. If I misgendered a kid, I'd expect them to correct me the same as if I had called them by the wrong name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything gender is big now. Being trans or pan or cis or something gendered or non gendered. The list of options for gender grows all the time.

Now there are two more orientations being talked about...who you are attracted to and who you can fall in love with.

So you can be asexual, transgender bi-romantic teen

So, if your 15 year old comes out as a genderqueer pansexual is a parent's only option to keep their mouth shut and not tell the kid how loony this is?

Ya'll need to stop clutching your pearls. For.real. These are regular, envelope-pushing teens. It's this decade's (or year's) way of damning the man. Let them at it. Your parents probably felt the same way when you tried to wear a lace bra a la Madonna and nothing else. Take a deep breath, realize it's a phase, and yes, just keep your mouth shut. Just do you and provide the regular support and love for your family! If in 10 years they're still at it, accept it's their reality and since you've been dealing with it for 10 years already, no big deal now!

This has been our strategy. But I am conflicted how to handle sleepovers. If our DD might be bi-sexual, as she has told us she is trying to determine, then same sex sleepovers would be a no go. So far she has only gone to a couple of sleepovers with groups of kids we know well, but we might need to say no to 1 on 1 sleepovers with close friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

I think the pp misunderstood what the pp before her stated.

She misunderstood me. I don't see a trend. And even if I saw a trend, I wouldn't see a problem. If I misgendered a kid, I'd expect them to correct me the same as if I had called them by the wrong name.

You would "expect" a middle school or slightly older age kid to "correct" you for calling a girl a girl or a boy a boy?

Truly, some of you are nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything gender is big now. Being trans or pan or cis or something gendered or non gendered. The list of options for gender grows all the time.

Now there are two more orientations being talked about...who you are attracted to and who you can fall in love with.

So you can be asexual, transgender bi-romantic teen

So, if your 15 year old comes out as a genderqueer pansexual is a parent's only option to keep their mouth shut and not tell the kid how loony this is?

Ya'll need to stop clutching your pearls. For.real. These are regular, envelope-pushing teens. It's this decade's (or year's) way of damning the man. Let them at it. Your parents probably felt the same way when you tried to wear a lace bra a la Madonna and nothing else. Take a deep breath, realize it's a phase, and yes, just keep your mouth shut. Just do you and provide the regular support and love for your family! If in 10 years they're still at it, accept it's their reality and since you've been dealing with it for 10 years already, no big deal now!

This has been our strategy. But I am conflicted how to handle sleepovers. If our DD might be bi-sexual, as she has told us she is trying to determine, then same sex sleepovers would be a no go. So far she has only gone to a couple of sleepovers with groups of kids we know well, but we might need to say no to 1 on 1 sleepovers with close friends.

Gee, mom. Why crack down on the parenting rules now?

[Anonymous]

Goofy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am horrified by this. Where are these kids' parents, and why are schools allowing this?

The kids' parents are at home/at work/at the grocery store/at the swim meet/etc. etc.

Schools are allowing this because their concern is students' education, not the pronouns students choose to use about themselves or whether students choose to wear pants, dresses, or both.