PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges

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Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.

Size -- number of students per grade

Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger

Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker

But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.

White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).


Good start.

More differences...

-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure


I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.


Are you affiliated with Banneker in any way?

If you are, here is a thought. Perhaps it's your own racist and not-very-smart words that make people with other HS options think, "why the heck would i ever go there"


When will you stop with the reverse racism crap? It won't get you far beyond your little alt-right world.


Public Service Announcement: You live in the USA, not in some country called EOTP. In the USA, most people would agree that the comment above is racist, not-very-smart, and perhaps even worryingly paranoid.


I am sorry that you find critical reflection on race to be paranoid and racist. My point is not that white parents are expressly engaged in that line of thinking - of course they aren't. But it's what underlies these kinds of decisions.
+1, I agree with you, pp.


Agree. I can't take seriously folks who say that the current racial makeup of Banneker has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the reluctance of white families to send their kids there. COME ON NOW.


I surrender.

On behalf on the white race, of which I am partially a member of, I formally declare, upon thoughtful request and consideration, that "the current racial makeup of Banneker has SOMETHING to do with the reluctance of white families to send their kids there."

Now, anyone has something interesting to say about the PARCC results?





NP here. Yes, it has SOMETHING to do with it. I do believe that many white parents have concerns about sending their kids to an all-black high school, they might worry about exclusion and bullying, whether that's reasonable or not. They might also worry whether their kid will be among "the right kind" of peers, if most students are lower SES. What I don't believe is that they avoid the school because they fear the loss of white privilege based on racial comparison. That loss would be equal if not greater in an all-white school. I don't believe white parents seek out diverse schools (which Banneker is not) so their white kid can have a foil of black kids to shine against.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.

Size -- number of students per grade

Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger

Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker

But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.

White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).


Good start.

More differences...

-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure


I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.


Are you affiliated with Banneker in any way?

If you are, here is a thought. Perhaps it's your own racist and not-very-smart words that make people with other HS options think, "why the heck would i ever go there"


When will you stop with the reverse racism crap? It won't get you far beyond your little alt-right world.


Public Service Announcement: You live in the USA, not in some country called EOTP. In the USA, most people would agree that the comment above is racist, not-very-smart, and perhaps even worryingly paranoid.


I am sorry that you find critical reflection on race to be paranoid and racist. My point is not that white parents are expressly engaged in that line of thinking - of course they aren't. But it's what underlies these kinds of decisions.
+1, I agree with you, pp.


Agree. I can't take seriously folks who say that the current racial makeup of Banneker has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the reluctance of white families to send their kids there. COME ON NOW.


I surrender.

On behalf on the white race, of which I am partially a member of, I formally declare, upon thoughtful request and consideration, that "the current racial makeup of Banneker has SOMETHING to do with the reluctance of white families to send their kids there."

Now, anyone has something interesting to say about the PARCC results?





NP here. Yes, it has SOMETHING to do with it. I do believe that many white parents have concerns about sending their kids to an all-black high school, they might worry about exclusion and bullying, whether that's reasonable or not. They might also worry whether their kid will be among "the right kind" of peers, if most students are lower SES. What I don't believe is that they avoid the school because they fear the loss of white privilege based on racial comparison. That loss would be equal if not greater in an all-white school. I don't believe white parents seek out diverse schools (which Banneker is not) so their white kid can have a foil of black kids to shine against.


See, we can be nice and find some common ground with the racist, paranoid poster above.

Now, since the universe doesn't revolve around Banneker, or around people of any particular race, why don't we just move on
Anonymous
We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.


Thank you for sharing that. Makes a lot of sense.

(Can the paranoid, race-obsessed previous poster please show up and debunk all those reasons...because He, better than anyone, truly knows why PP's son did not even consider Banneker)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.


Thank you for sharing that. Makes a lot of sense.

(Can the paranoid, race-obsessed previous poster please show up and debunk all those reasons...because He, better than anyone, truly knows why PP's son did not even consider Banneker)


That poster will probably come back and point out that PP's son is racist for not wanting to be the only white kid!
Anonymous
I'm the poster who has the son who selected Wilson over Banneker and Walls.
I forgot to add that we also looked at McKinley Tech but my son rejected it because of
Tough commute from Tenley. I'm surprised how no one ever mentions
McKinley Tech on these forums. For kids interested in Science and Math,
It is a very good option. Go visit the school, ask for a tour and actually spend time
In a class or two - you will be pleasantly surprised.

Wilson is a bit crazy for 9th grade. Overcrowded and my kid seems to have bad to mediocre
teachers. Hope 10th grade is an improvement.


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Anonymous wrote:Most countries in Europe have a big 'final' test to graduate from high school; I think it makes sense, although it should be combined with the normal GPA to get to a final pass/fail threshold. Just in case a poor kid totally bombs the test but is an otherwise good student.


Makes sense, but wouldn't fly here.

Would expose the crappy ed system we have, and teacher unions wouldn't like it.


IF the system is "Crappy" it's the adminstration's fault, not the union's.


True, but it's the teacher unions the ones with the massive political leverage.


What planet do you live on, clearly not on earth
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.




Thank you for sharing that. Makes a lot of sense.

(Can the paranoid, race-obsessed previous poster please show up and debunk all those reasons...because He, better than anyone, truly knows why PP's son did not even consider Banneker)



So a thread about drop in test scores at Wilson and the PARCC test ends up as a diagnoses on the AA population of Banneker, SAD, just plain SAD!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.




Thank you for sharing that. Makes a lot of sense.

(Can the paranoid, race-obsessed previous poster please show up and debunk all those reasons...because He, better than anyone, truly knows why PP's son did not even consider Banneker)



So a thread about drop in test scores at Wilson and the PARCC test ends up as a diagnoses on the AA population of Banneker, SAD, just plain SAD!!!!


Who was diagnosing Banneker students, and with what? Must have missed that!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.




Thank you for sharing that. Makes a lot of sense.

(Can the paranoid, race-obsessed previous poster please show up and debunk all those reasons...because He, better than anyone, truly knows why PP's son did not even consider Banneker)



So a thread about drop in test scores at Wilson and the PARCC test ends up as a diagnoses on the AA population of Banneker, SAD, just plain SAD!!!!


Who was diagnosing Banneker students, and with what? Must have missed that!


Because you are a clueless douche.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there
.


As someone with a much younger kid zoned for Deal, this gave me a chuckle.
Anonymous
A bit of good news is that in DC middle schools across the board, the advanced math students, those who take Algebra I in 7th and Geometry in 8th are doing quite well. When they get to high school, the Algebra II scores dip a bit, but are still good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A bit of good news is that in DC middle schools across the board, the advanced math students, those who take Algebra I in 7th and Geometry in 8th are doing quite well. When they get to high school, the Algebra II scores dip a bit, but are still good.


Not really news. Same results last year.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We looked at Banneker for my white kid but he turned it down
For the following reasons:

1) we live very close to Wilson.
2) Was not too excited that almost all kids are AA and more
girls than boys.
3) Sat scores and college acceptances are worse than Wilson. Very impressive though that
almost all kids graduate and go on to some college from Banneker.
4) Banneker is scheduled to be renovated shortly which means that two of his years there would be
spent at a holding school.
5) not many options for sports

He also rejected SWW for being too small, bad open house, principal seemed annoying and arrogant, and the fact that he felt
most annoying kids from Deal (in his opinion) were planning on going there.




Thank you for sharing that. Makes a lot of sense.

(Can the paranoid, race-obsessed previous poster please show up and debunk all those reasons...because He, better than anyone, truly knows why PP's son did not even consider Banneker)



So a thread about drop in test scores at Wilson and the PARCC test ends up as a diagnoses on the AA population of Banneker, SAD, just plain SAD!!!!


Who was diagnosing Banneker students, and with what? Must have missed that!


Because you are a clueless douche.


What a lovely dude. Please tell us you belong to that half of the incoming Banneker class that gets thrown under the bus. By 10th grade, I hope?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster who has the son who selected Wilson over Banneker and Walls.
I forgot to add that we also looked at McKinley Tech but my son rejected it because of
Tough commute from Tenley. I'm surprised how no one ever mentions
McKinley Tech on these forums. For kids interested in Science and Math,
It is a very good option. Go visit the school, ask for a tour and actually spend time
In a class or two - you will be pleasantly surprised.

Wilson is a bit crazy for 9th grade. Overcrowded and my kid seems to have bad to mediocre
teachers. Hope 10th grade is an improvement.





Great point. We have been talking Banneker for a while. What about SWW? What about McKinley?

Anyone there?
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