Humanize Palestine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

Israel could also get the hell out of the West Bank and return all the land and water it stole to build illegal settlements. It had the ability to do so for years. But I guess they like their single family houses with pools and backyards a lot more than peace.

Look up reports of settler violence.

[Muslima]

Bolivia declares Israel terrorist regime

Bolivia has declared Israel a “terrorist state” and revoked a visa exemption agreement with Tel Aviv in protest at the ongoing Israeli attacks on the besieged Gaza Strip.

The move "means, in other words, we are declaring (Israel) a terrorist state," President Evo Morales said during talks with a group of educators in the city of Cochabamba on Wednesday.

Morales added that the Israeli offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/30/373426/bolivia-labels-israel-terrorist-regime/

[Muslima]

UN Official Chris Gunness Breaks Down On Air After School Bombing

"The rights of Palestinians, and even their children, are wholesale denied... and its appalling," Gunness, spokesman for the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), told Al Jazeera Arabic from Jerusalem. The interviewer appears to thank him for appearing, upon which Gunness breaks down and weeps.

[Muslima]

Rami Rayan, 23, journalist was killed today in Gaza ( video, warning graphic)

That was extremely hard to watch. I can not imagine how terrifying it must be to live in a place under siege. There is no propaganda in this footage, that's the reality and it really makes you despair for humanity.

Rami Rayan, a Palestinian photojournalist, was killed today in an Israeli air strike on a busy market in Gaza.

The attack killed at least 16 people and wounded over 150 more. Rayan, a photographer reportedly working for a local website, was wearing a helmet and a vest marked "PRESS" when he was found among the dead in the Shijaiyah neighborhood of Gaza. His death was reported by BBC's Shahdi Alkashif

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/rami-rayan-killed-dead-gaza-attack_n_5634548.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Muslima, et al: surely you know the answer to your last question. When a country is surrounded by enemies, who have either supplied rockets to Hamas (Syria, Iran), Hezobllah in Lebanon, ISIS psychopaths in Iraq, Hamas leadership in Qatar, many other countries who are less than hospitable to Israel and Jews, and of course Hamas and Islamic Jihad operating in the occupied territories, I think Israel should have weapons for defense. You do understand that, right?

You seem to want to deny what is behind the fight against the occupation. It isn't hatred of Jewish people. Arabs are their cousins, their fellow semites, their brethren if you will.

Now spend 60 years taking people's land from them, subjecting them to blockades, road blocks, forced emigration, loss of family estates, mass evictions, imprisonment and every 6 year sago massive aerial bombardment like we see now in Gaza and, yes, a people will progressively become more and more radicalized and more and more desperate.

What you miscalculate is that the Palestinians will give up, that they can be crushed into submission. Instead, both people are marching side by side staright into a hell of their own creation….and you are too filled with hate to see it.

[Muslima]

I just want to know how this shooting to civilians can be justified. How do you explain this? Random people on their way to an open market getting shot at? How?

[Muslima]

The awful decisions I’ve made to protect my Palestinian children from this war
The most painful question they’ve asked me is a response to our neurotic nighttime habits. One night, I make all three sleep in the same bedroom with us, hoping to increase the odds they’ll survive if a shell hits one of the empty rooms in our house. But then the next night, I’ll separate them, thinking that if I divide my children they won’t all die in an attack. (Unless we’re hit by a half-ton bomb, rather than artillery shell, in which case we’ll all be killed, anyway.)

These are the painful contortions I’d wish on no mother anywhere. Yet mothers throughout Gaza make these decisions every night — and live with the consequences of one ill-fated move. But how am I supposed to answer when Maryam asks, “Why do we sleep somewhere different each night?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/30/the-awful-decisions-ive-made-to-protect-my-palestinian-children-from-this-war/

[Anonymous]

Israeli officer: "Anything that moves in the zone, even a three-year old, needs to be killed."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israeli officer: "Anything that moves in the zone, even a three-year old, needs to be killed."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel

And he was reprimanded for doing so.

[Anonymous]

Muslima - do you believe Palestinians engage in honor killings? Do you believe the UN when they say Hamas has weaponry in civilian locations? Do you support either practice? Do you believe suicide bombers exist? Do you feel they are correct in their behavior?

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:Muslima - do you believe Palestinians engage in honor killings? Do you believe the UN when they say Hamas has weaponry in civilian locations? Do you support either practice? Do you believe suicide bombers exist? Do you feel they are correct in their behavior?

do you believe Palestinians engage in honor killings?

I believe that this is practiced in various cultures and is not "Palestinian" per se.

Do you believe the UN when they say Hamas has weaponry in civilian locations?

Yes. I have said numerous times that there was evidence of weapons found in schools.

Do you believe suicide bombers exist?

Yes.

Do you feel they are correct in their behavior?

No.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Muslima - do you believe Palestinians engage in honor killings? Do you believe the UN when they say Hamas has weaponry in civilian locations? Do you support either practice? Do you believe suicide bombers exist? Do you feel they are correct in their behavior?

do you believe Palestinians engage in honor killings?

I believe that this is practiced in various cultures and is not "Palestinian" per se.

Do you believe the UN when they say Hamas has weaponry in civilian locations?

Yes. I have said numerous times that there was evidence of weapons found in schools.

Do you believe suicide bombers exist?

Yes.

Do you feel they are correct in their behavior?

No.

If Palestinians are practicing honor killings, then that's proof they don't respect the lives of their children. In light of these behaviors by the Palestinians and Hamas, why do you believe that Palestinians/Hamas will respect the lives of others in general, especially of the Israeli people?

[Muslima]

I am sorry but the premise of your statement is wrong. How many Palestinians do you think practice honor killing? How many Americans kill their children? There are more Americans killing their children than there are Palestinians doing honor killing.I guess according to your logic, Americans do not respect the lives of their children so why do we expect them to respect the lives of other people? ughhhhh

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:I am sorry but the premise of your statement is wrong. How many Palestinians do you think practice honor killing? How many Americans kill their children? There are more Americans killing their children than there are Palestinians doing honor killing.I guess according to your logic, Americans do not respect the lives of their children so why do we expect them to respect the lives of other people? ughhhhh

Here in America, we prosecute people for murdering their children. It is not government-sanctioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israeli officer: "Anything that moves in the zone, even a three-year old, needs to be killed."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel

And he was reprimanded for doing so.

Reprimanded for MURDER?

What would you do to a soldier who shoots YOUR child? Reprimand him?

And he wasn't. All charges were dropped and he was promoted to colonel.