Humanize Palestine

[Anonymous]

Muslima, et al: surely you know the answer to your last question. When a country is surrounded by enemies, who have either supplied rockets to Hamas (Syria, Iran), Hezobllah in Lebanon, ISIS psychopaths in Iraq, Hamas leadership in Qatar, many other countries who are less than hospitable to Israel and Jews, and of course Hamas and Islamic Jihad operating in the occupied territories, I think Israel should have weapons for defense. You do understand that, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

And after Israel was nuked, America would be next. Believe it. The door would be open for others to follow suit.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

I have heard this rhetoric, and it is simply not true that if Israel wanted, they can eliminate Gaza in 12hours. This is simply not True. Israel doesn't dare eliminating Gaza. There are billions of people watching, and you think the world will just sit and watch while Israel launches nukes on an entire nation? They do not Dare, and this is the only reason why Gaza is still standing and this is why they try to kill it little by little so the world doesn't notice but people are waking up. Israel is not sparing Ghaza out of morals or ethics, ahhha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

And after Israel was nuked, America would be next. Believe it. The door would be open for others to follow suit.

Nukes can't reach the US. If they wanted to nuke us, they would have done so, they are not especially waiting to do it to Israel first.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

I have heard this rhetoric, and it is simply not true that if Israel wanted, they can eliminate Gaza in 12hours. This is simply not True. Israel doesn't dare eliminating Gaza. There are billions of people watching, and you think the world will just sit and watch while Israel launches nukes on an entire nation? They do not Dare, and this is the only reason why Gaza is still standing and this is why they try to kill it little by little so the world doesn't notice but people are waking up. Israel is not sparing Ghaza out of morals or ethics, ahhha

You are 1000000% wrong about that. Israel does not want dead Gazans. It serves them absolutely no benefit and, even assuming that they do not have morals and ethics, which they absolutely do, having dead Gazans only hurts their cause.

In fact, Israel sent troops in by ground bc that leads to far fewer casualties than continued air strikes, even though it leads to more military casualties. So Israel is putting its own soldiers at risk to ensure more precise destruction of terrorist targets and fewer civilian casualties.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

I have heard this rhetoric, and it is simply not true that if Israel wanted, they can eliminate Gaza in 12hours. This is simply not True. Israel doesn't dare eliminating Gaza. There are billions of people watching, and you think the world will just sit and watch while Israel launches nukes on an entire nation? They do not Dare, and this is the only reason why Gaza is still standing and this is why they try to kill it little by little so the world doesn't notice but people are waking up. Israel is not sparing Ghaza out of morals or ethics, ahhha

Israel is already being condemned on the international stage. Clearly, they aren't too concerned with PR.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

I have heard this rhetoric, and it is simply not true that if Israel wanted, they can eliminate Gaza in 12hours. This is simply not True. Israel doesn't dare eliminating Gaza. There are billions of people watching, and you think the world will just sit and watch while Israel launches nukes on an entire nation? They do not Dare, and this is the only reason why Gaza is still standing and this is why they try to kill it little by little so the world doesn't notice but people are waking up. Israel is not sparing Ghaza out of morals or ethics, ahhha

You are 1000000% wrong about that. Israel does not want dead Gazans. It serves them absolutely no benefit and, even assuming that they do not have morals and ethics, which they absolutely do, having dead Gazans only hurts their cause.

In fact, Israel sent troops in by ground bc that leads to far fewer casualties than continued air strikes, even though it leads to more military casualties. So Israel is putting its own soldiers at risk to ensure more precise destruction of terrorist targets and fewer civilian casualties.

So what's your response to this? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/29/israeli-soldier-admits-murdering-palestinian-civilians-was-a-pre-planned-act-of-revenge/

[Muslima]

Or? http://electronicintifada.net/content/report-finds-new-israeli-war-doctrine-targets-civilians/1004

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Look, I'm trying to get at practical solutions here. I promise to answer this question if you answer mine first: If Israel ends the blockade, how can they ensure that Hamas will not immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel?

Did you read Hamas' s reform documents? This is what they said about their goals : " the aim is to
achieve equality before the law among citizens in rights and duties; bring security to all citizens and protect their proper- ties and assure their safety against arbitrary arrest, torture, or revenge; stress the culture of dialogue . . . ; support the press and media institutions and maintain the right of journalists to accessandto publishinformation; maintain freedomandinde- pendence of professional syndicates and preserve the rights of their membership."


Do I think Hamas is the solution ? No, but I think it is up to the Palestinian people to decide who their leader should be, that is the most basic of democratic rights.....

I don't understand -- how would this minimize the risk that Hamas would immediately import sophisticated weaponry and use it on Israel? Let me try to get at this another way - would you support lifting the blockade but requiring full access to all imports/exports by third-party monitors?

Yes but this brings us back to the double standard issue I've been raising. Why is it okay to monitor Gaza while Israel has been buying weapons freely since it was created? Why is it okay for Israel to be military strong while Gaza has to use rockets ?

Honestly? Because if Israel wanted to eliminate Gaza, it could do so today, in about 12 hours. It's had the ability to do so for years. And Gaza is still here.

Do you really believe that, if Hamas had a nuke, it wouldn't launch it at Israel at the first opportunity?

I have heard this rhetoric, and it is simply not true that if Israel wanted, they can eliminate Gaza in 12hours. This is simply not True. Israel doesn't dare eliminating Gaza. There are billions of people watching, and you think the world will just sit and watch while Israel launches nukes on an entire nation? They do not Dare, and this is the only reason why Gaza is still standing and this is why they try to kill it little by little so the world doesn't notice but people are waking up. Israel is not sparing Ghaza out of morals or ethics, ahhha

Israel is already being condemned on the international stage. Clearly, they aren't too concerned with PR.

Ain't that the truth? Israel is such a blight on the face of the planet right now, and its defenders here in the US are no better. Worst of all are the torrents of words they spew forth to justify killing so many innocent people.

[Muslima]

I just watched this video of the destruction of the entire neighborhood Beit Hanoun by Israel in one hour. One would think it's a movie. This is insane http://972mag.com/watch-civilians-have-no-safe-place-to-go-in-gaza/94518/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://972mag.com/watch-civilians-have-no-safe-place-to-go-in-gaza/94518/

[Anonymous]

So what's your response to this? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/29/israeli-so...-a-pre-planned-act-of-revenge/

Dead link.

Or? http://electronicintifada.net/content/report-finds...octrine-targets-civilians/1004

That five years ago, a group called The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel reviewed Israeli tactical maneuvers and found that they were wanting, morally speaking. I was not exactly surprised.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:I just watched this video of the destruction of the entire neighborhood Beit Hanoun by Israel in one hour. One would think it's a movie. This is insane http://972mag.com/watch-civilians-have-no-safe-place-to-go-in-gaza/94518/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://972mag.com/watch-civilians-have-no-safe-place-to-go-in-gaza/94518/

I just saw this. Normally I try to understand each sides reasoning but as each day/incident goes by, I'm getting more disgusted with Israel.

[Muslima]

To be honest, it's surreal. Its getting worse by the day

[Anonymous]

Israel cannot nuke Gaza, no more than Gaza can nuke Israel given the opportunity. They are too, too close in proximity and all the nuclear back splash would affect the other.

[Anonymous]

So now that an entire neighborhood is gone, where or where do these Israelis murderers think the children should hide? They can't go to the mosques, beach, church, schools, un safehouse, for they have been bombed as well.