Aftercare is cruel to kindergarteners

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Anonymous wrote:Working moms always want to hear how progressive and educated they are and how they are providing and setting a good example for their children not to rely on a man for $.

In reality though: working moms bewilder me. When you consider the thought people put into getting a dog for example- whether the dog will have space to run, enough time for walks, enough time to spend with it each day. It's sad to see that people don't put this forethought into bringing an actual human being into the world. If you are having children to put them in daycare, aftercare, whatever, then you're showing that your child that your priority is your job, your career, your happiness and your poor child is less than a dog. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear this.

I'll have you know I crate trained my child. I admit I had a terrible time getting her not to jump up on strangers, but we finally got it once I employed the squirt bottle.

My dog, on the other hand, adores his doggy day care. He also does Kumon on weekends. I'm pretty sure he's going to make it into AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I was raised by two full-time working parents. Mom put in 40 hrs/week M-F and spent 2.5 years working all day Saturdays while she wrote a book and we had movie day with Dad. I'm a 4th generation working mom and I LOVED my childhood. If you're assuming your kids will spend all of the after school hours missing you, you probably didn't have a working mom, right? Or you didn't have many friends as a child? Those of us who actually grew up as the children of these kinds of mothers know how wonderful a family life can be with two working parents. I choose to work because I know it's best, not just for our bank account, but for my child. If you doubt that, then go for a different decision. That's fine and I'm sure that can work out great too. But you're making a straw man argument - the notion that daycare harms kids was debunked in the 80s. If you want to keep arguing it, feel free but there's no evidence to back you up.

And I was raised by two working parents as well. Spent my summers and after schools in daycare- and I wanted nothing more than to spend my summers running around the neighborhood with the rest of my friends, playing in the woods alone with no adults in sight, biking, etc. or just come home and have freshly made cookies by mom, time to veg out alone, etc. The type of childhood people always dream of. Sure, I had fun at camps and no I was not permanently damaged, but I really longed for that classic, carefree childhood.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread makes no sense. This is the daycare mindset so why are you surprised? You drop your kids off to be raised by someone else at 3 months old, hardly see them until they are 14, then you justify it by saying they need you now, right before they leave for college. Those are the only 4 years that matter. Then you pat yourself on the back for being a good mom and in 15 years you will wonder why your kids don't have time for you.

Well, since you obviously have the intellectual capacity of a small child, it's no wonder you're confused. That must really suck for you.

I know it hurts to hear that you should give your kids up for adoption but maybe the new parents will let you visit on weekend mornings. That is what you want anyway, right?

No. What I really, really want is for people like you to engage in therapy to understand why you are so damaged and small-minded. The world would be a much better place.

Why do people like you avoid birth control if you know you are going to neglect your kids or kill the ones who come at the wrong time? You need help because you are evil and cruel. Babies deserve better.

You are totally fucking insane.

How many babies have you killed? Yes, it counts if you were just a scared teenager.

Please refer to my previous comment.

Oh, so it was recent. Sorry for bringing it up.

Really, how can you say these types of things to another person? Even anonymously on the internet? How can you live with yourself?

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Why are sane, thoughtful, intelligent people still engaging with this lunatic. I can't believe you gave her a platform 17 pages long to ramble on. Just stop responding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Working moms always want to hear how progressive and educated they are and how they are providing and setting a good example for their children not to rely on a man for $.

In reality though: working moms bewilder me. When you consider the thought people put into getting a dog for example- whether the dog will have space to run, enough time for walks, enough time to spend with it each day. It's sad to see that people don't put this forethought into bringing an actual human being into the world. If you are having children to put them in daycare, aftercare, whatever, then you're showing that your child that your priority is your job, your career, your happiness and your poor child is less than a dog. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear this.

Did your mom work? Did you feel like she cared more for the dog than you while you were finger painting with your friends? I'm sorry to hear that but that was symptomatic of your mom's poor parenting skills, nothing to do with her working. She would have been just a crappy mom at home, if not worse.

- Daughter of a working mom & working dad

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Anonymous wrote:This thread makes no sense. This is the daycare mindset so why are you surprised? You drop your kids off to be raised by someone else at 3 months old, hardly see them until they are 14, then you justify it by saying they need you now, right before they leave for college. Those are the only 4 years that matter. Then you pat yourself on the back for being a good mom and in 15 years you will wonder why your kids don't have time for you.

Well, since you obviously have the intellectual capacity of a small child, it's no wonder you're confused. That must really suck for you.

I know it hurts to hear that you should give your kids up for adoption but maybe the new parents will let you visit on weekend mornings. That is what you want anyway, right?

No. What I really, really want is for people like you to engage in therapy to understand why you are so damaged and small-minded. The world would be a much better place.

Why do people like you avoid birth control if you know you are going to neglect your kids or kill the ones who come at the wrong time? You need help because you are evil and cruel. Babies deserve better.

You are totally fucking insane.

How many babies have you killed? Yes, it counts if you were just a scared teenager.

Please refer to my previous comment.

Oh, so it was recent. Sorry for bringing it up.

PP, all kidding aside, please get a mental health evaluation. Seriously. You have problems.

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For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

When your children realize they don't legally need your permission, I hope they're kind enough to invite you anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

Controlling much, mommy dearest?

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No, they will learn proper values.

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Anonymous wrote:Working moms always want to hear how progressive and educated they are and how they are providing and setting a good example for their children not to rely on a man for $.

In reality though: working moms bewilder me. When you consider the thought people put into getting a dog for example- whether the dog will have space to run, enough time for walks, enough time to spend with it each day. It's sad to see that people don't put this forethought into bringing an actual human being into the world. If you are having children to put them in daycare, aftercare, whatever, then you're showing that your child that your priority is your job, your career, your happiness and your poor child is less than a dog. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear this.

Did your mom work? Did you feel like she cared more for the dog than you while you were finger painting with your friends? I'm sorry to hear that but that was symptomatic of your mom's poor parenting skills, nothing to do with her working. She would have been just a crappy mom at home, if not worse.

- Daughter of a working mom & working dad

She was a great mom who sacrificed an amazing career to be home with me. I felt loved and supported and she set the example of what motherhood should look like. The only crappy "moms" are the ones who parent less than part time. One hour in the morning, two at night, and parts of the weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

Controlling much, mommy dearest?

Nah that is someone trying to mock me because I said that children of divorced parents are not good marriage candidates.

I am so flattered....which poster were you in that thread?

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Given the kind of parenting that goes on in this area, the children are probably better being in school and aftercare.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread makes no sense. This is the daycare mindset so why are you surprised? You drop your kids off to be raised by someone else at 3 months old, hardly see them until they are 14, then you justify it by saying they need you now, right before they leave for college. Those are the only 4 years that matter. Then you pat yourself on the back for being a good mom and in 15 years you will wonder why your kids don't have time for you.

Well, since you obviously have the intellectual capacity of a small child, it's no wonder you're confused. That must really suck for you.

I know it hurts to hear that you should give your kids up for adoption but maybe the new parents will let you visit on weekend mornings. That is what you want anyway, right?

No. What I really, really want is for people like you to engage in therapy to understand why you are so damaged and small-minded. The world would be a much better place.

Why do people like you avoid birth control if you know you are going to neglect your kids or kill the ones who come at the wrong time? You need help because you are evil and cruel. Babies deserve better.

You are totally fucking insane.

How many babies have you killed? Yes, it counts if you were just a scared teenager.

Please refer to my previous comment.

Oh, so it was recent. Sorry for bringing it up.

Really, how can you say these types of things to another person? Even anonymously on the internet? How can you live with yourself?

How can I say what?

It is not rude to ask how many babies you have killed. Especially to someone who wants to evaluate the mental health of someone else. If you've killed a baby or two but you are calling someone else crazy, then you need a reality check.
Anyone who hasn't killed a baby would say so...unless they enjoy the idea of being a killer. Which brings us back to whether or not this type of person should be evaluating the mental state of someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha Muuuuuuaaaah.
Love Larla