What Schools are Considered 2T?

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Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

There’s so much wrong in that table it’s not worth discussing. Fraudulent numbers, arbitrary categorizations, flawed methodology.

What's fraudulent about counting instagram posts? Ivy+ looks the same as the first google link that has a list (https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/ivy-plus-schools). I'm sure there are biases over who don't post, but wouldn't those be similar biases across schools? The table seems much more objective than vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

There’s so much wrong in that table it’s not worth discussing. Fraudulent numbers, arbitrary categorizations, flawed methodology.

Can you explain in more detail?

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Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

There’s so much wrong in that table it’s not worth discussing. Fraudulent numbers, arbitrary categorizations, flawed methodology.

Can you explain in more detail?

Not PP, but just curious what answers you think you will get from poring over teenagers' IG posts? Yes, many graduates of the NYC private schools go on to top colleges. Maybe it's about the schools themselves? Maybe it's about the kids, their personalities and abilities? Maybe it's about money, connections, and access to outside resources that might give some students an edge? Maybe it's about all of those things?

This pathetic exercise is about gossip, curiosity, and d***-waving. I truly hope that you are not actually of the belief that it matters that School A had four more kids get into Yale in 2026 than School B did, or that School C had a lot of kids choose (gasp!) SLACs this year.

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Instagram counting or eximission results is much more factual than fictional TT/T2/T3 classification. I’d rather look at objective metrics than relying on urban moms’ word of mouth. Yes, it hurts to see bad results from a “T2” school if your DC goes there or went there.

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Anonymous wrote:Instagram counting or eximission results is much more factual than fictional TT/T2/T3 classification. I’d rather look at objective metrics than relying on urban moms’ word of mouth. Yes, it hurts to see bad results from a “T2” school if your DC goes there or went there.

Look at the results the schools publish. Self reporting is full of students lying and it doesn’t include the horrible colleges many from all of these schools attend. Your denominators are off in all these percentage calculations

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Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

There’s so much wrong in that table it’s not worth discussing. Fraudulent numbers, arbitrary categorizations, flawed methodology.

Can you explain in more detail?

Not PP, but just curious what answers you think you will get from poring over teenagers' IG posts? Yes, many graduates of the NYC private schools go on to top colleges. Maybe it's about the schools themselves? Maybe it's about the kids, their personalities and abilities? Maybe it's about money, connections, and access to outside resources that might give some students an edge? Maybe it's about all of those things?

This pathetic exercise is about gossip, curiosity, and d***-waving. I truly hope that you are not actually of the belief that it matters that School A had four more kids get into Yale in 2026 than School B did, or that School C had a lot of kids choose (gasp!) SLACs this year.

Correct. You are an imbecile if you think Susie gets into Yale from one TT and not another because of one school’s strength.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Instagram counting or eximission results is much more factual than fictional TT/T2/T3 classification. I’d rather look at objective metrics than relying on urban moms’ word of mouth. Yes, it hurts to see bad results from a “T2” school if your DC goes there or went there.

Look at the results the schools publish. Self reporting is full of students lying and it doesn’t include the horrible colleges many from all of these schools attend. Your denominators are off in all these percentage calculations

we have looked at our DC school published data versus the self reporting. About 10% don't post in both those cases. The numbers tie out.

i don't think many kids are going to post on IG a lie about where they are going to school.

and most of the schools have good results - not very many "horrible colleges". you seem like a blast.

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Anonymous wrote:so raises an interesting question - put exmissions to the side for now -

do the TT teach better? have better resources? more opportunities? versus 2/3 T schools

anyone have kids in several different tiers of schools and can they share thoughts on the question?

poly and bc are 3/4 T schools. they have plenty of recourses. just like Wake Forest and Yale have largely the same resources. but the peer group and the teaching is not quite the same.

I can’t speak to BC. Poly is at least 3T, or wherever CGPS and Trevor are. It’s harder to get into with better athletics and exmissions

CGPS has better exmissions. By a fair bit

Funny. This isn’t true

look at the table a few posts earlier. Is my statement wrong?

sorry I mean in the instagram thread. They ivy plus wasp is ten percent higher. I think if you add the next set of schools CGPS is even better.

I don’t think people really would chose between the two. Very different and far away.

My guess is CGPS is easier to get into though.

There’s so much wrong in that table it’s not worth discussing. Fraudulent numbers, arbitrary categorizations, flawed methodology.

Can you explain in more detail?

Not PP, but just curious what answers you think you will get from poring over teenagers' IG posts? Yes, many graduates of the NYC private schools go on to top colleges. Maybe it's about the schools themselves? Maybe it's about the kids, their personalities and abilities? Maybe it's about money, connections, and access to outside resources that might give some students an edge? Maybe it's about all of those things?

This pathetic exercise is about gossip, curiosity, and d***-waving. I truly hope that you are not actually of the belief that it matters that School A had four more kids get into Yale in 2026 than School B did, or that School C had a lot of kids choose (gasp!) SLACs this year.

Correct. You are an imbecile if you think Susie gets into Yale from one TT and not another because of one school’s strength.

All the TT have great results.

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Anonymous wrote:Instagram counting or eximission results is much more factual than fictional TT/T2/T3 classification. I’d rather look at objective metrics than relying on urban moms’ word of mouth. Yes, it hurts to see bad results from a “T2” school if your DC goes there or went there.

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Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

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Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

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Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

--

Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

It would be helpful and help elucidate the tiers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

--

Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

It would be helpful and help elucidate the tiers

It is not that exact of a science. I feel very sorry for you if you need things broken down that granularly. Please chill.

[Anonymous]

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Correct. You are an imbecile if you think Susie gets into Yale from one TT and not another because of one school’s strength.

You think a school makes no makes no difference? Prove it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also regarding St Anns DNA. but also can't overlook their college placement, even now.

GCS is a solid school, but also very much a full pay place. They dont have the endowment TTs have. They dont have the college placement of 2Ts like Regis or St Ann's or, if we were adding publics, schools like Bronx Science or Hunter.

I put GCS on the same tier as Beacon and Poly Prep and Berkeley Carroll. I think that's 3T.

And if I wanted to open a can of worms: I'd also put Avenues in this tier. It's a good education with solid college counseling and outcomes. Also pretty much full pay, but it is what it is

If you are going to be very granular and say 2T is just Regis, St. Ann's, and maybe Riverdale, then I would agree that Grace is 3T. Though if also being that granular, I would likely differentiate it from Berkeley Carroll and make that 4T. If you are doing a broader view of 2T then Grace sneaks in.

Agreed that Avenues is an odd duck. Probably agree with you on the tiering. But it draws a different crowd. And I know some people who sent their kid for elementary (particularly those who live downtown for whom it was convenient) and maxed out the language portion then applied out as they felt that that was its primary differentiating factor and the HS was not as good.

Okay, I'll try. I agree that GCS is getting rising in ranks - just 3-4 years ago they'd take anyone who could pay and was tier 4 - but it's not tier 2. I don't have deep insight into all these schools so this is just my take as a person who has two kids in private high schools in nyc, has been through the application process twice as an unhooked family, and follows college placement somewhat. I'm sure there are glaring errors.

(these aren't ranked within tiers)

tier 1
Trinity
Collegiate
Dalton
Spence
Brearley
HM
Chapin

tier 2
St Ann's
Regis
Riverdale
Fieldstone
Marymount
Sacred Heart
Nightingale

tier 3
Loyola
GCS
Packer
Poly
Avenues
Friends Seminary

Tier 4
BFS
BC
Basis
Hewitt
Dwight
Trevor
Calhoun
Hackley
Lycée
UNIS
Xavier/Fordham Prep
Notre Dame/DA/SVF

--

Interesting, this is close to instagram thread post with Ivy+WASP college placements, except Brearley (particularly)/Spence/Chapin are in a league of their own, St Ann's is TT, Fieldston is more around 3T with Friends/Packer. But Fieldston/Friends/Packer place over Poly/GCS

We all understand the tiers and largely agree with most of them. Can someone actually rank all these schools though from 1-50 or so? I think that’d actually be super helpful

Really? Talk about a pointless exercise. Get a hobby. I can't wait until your kid is applying to college and you are one of the people who decides where their kid goes to college solely based on the idiotic USN&WR rankings. The world doesn't work like that. Except I can very clearly rank those people who are obsessively dependent on ranking as intellectually inferior to those who are intelligent enough to see them as a very limited tool that can provide a bit of very directional guidance and that is it.

It would be helpful and help elucidate the tiers

It is not that exact of a science. I feel very sorry for you if you need things broken down that granularly. Please chill.

Not everyone is as privileged and knowledgeable as you and they need help and resources. Pay it forward to minorities