Harry and Meghan’s Christmas card

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Anonymous wrote:Lillibet's hair is not brushed.

As someone with curly hair, I will posit that brushing Lilibet's hair could make it very frizzy. Or it could be that humidity makes her hair freak out a bit.

Or maybe she hates having it brushed. I did when I was her age, and I have a vivid memory of having my hair brushed and squirming around so much trying to get away that my mom whacked me with the brush. It's OK with me if Megan prefers unbrushed hair on a preschooler to that.

But regardless: You are criticizing the hair of a preschooler.

You don't think Meghan, who straightens her curly hair to the point of flatness, wouldn't know how to handle her daughter's curly hair?

Oh I’m sure Meghan could straighten her daughter’s hair if she wanted to. But why would she want to?

I’ve seen photos of Meghan as a child and she always has natural curly hair. Why would she choose to make her daughter feel self conscious about her natural hair? You want her to use a flatiron on a preschooler??? That is insane. I hope you don’t have kids.

Natural doesn’t mean never style hair or run a brush or comb through it.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Totally understand: but if you reject being a part of it, then you don't get the benefits.

That’s not how birthright works.

Harry’s still a prince even if he lives on the beach. Charles is still king even after writing love letters to tampons. William is still a prince even if he does zero work.

But still, you don’t get the security or other benefits just because of birth right or because you demand them. He can be a prince of nowhere on a beach and pay for his own security detail which is the life he chose. Nothing was guaranteed. It’s meaningless in the end.

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Wow, 18 pages on someone else’s Christmas card…

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Anonymous wrote:Her hair looks fine. She's a child. It's a little frizzy, but not unbrushed.

That said, I think it's so strange they insist on doing holiday cards with a family photo while refusing to show their kid's faces. I don't need to see their kid's faces, that's fine. But if you want to protect their privacy, why do the holiday card with them in it? Or why not just send a holiday car to family and close friends with a real family photo, and not do a public card at all? If they wanted to express holiday wishes publicly, they could do so without a photo.

It's just such a strange choice.

I think maybe they do it because Archie may have the same problem with his eyes that Lady Louise had? I remember when he was born and seeing some pics/reading that he might have strabismus. I have known kids who had early surgery for this, but I know that Lady Louise didn't have her surgery until she was much older, so who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 18 pages on someone else’s Christmas card…

I really don’t get it! I, personally, have never zoomed in on any celebrity or royal Christmas card, but to each her own. Usually my response is “that’s nice” then flip or scroll on.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Totally understand: but if you reject being a part of it, then you don't get the benefits.

That’s not how birthright works.

Harry’s still a prince even if he lives on the beach. Charles is still king even after writing love letters to tampons. William is still a prince even if he does zero work.

Having a birthright title does not give you the right to be a full time working royal Eugenie and Beatrice both have birthright titles and are not working royals. He can sit in California and call himself "prince" all he wants, but the royal family does not have ro pay him.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 18 pages on someone else’s Christmas card…

I really don’t get it! I, personally, have never zoomed in on any celebrity or royal Christmas card, but to each her own. Usually my response is “that’s nice” then flip or scroll on.

I do agree but to be fair I’ve also never seen a Christmas card where the mom is in a see through dress and the kids’ faces are intentionally hidden. So I see why there’s discussion.

I 100% support the idea of hiding their kids’ faces. Once you’ve made that choice, your options are either (1)
Don’t show the kids at all or (2) intentionally take photos of them looking away. I would’ve gone with option 1, I don’t understand why they thought option 2 was better. It’s just weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Totally understand: but if you reject being a part of it, then you don't get the benefits.

That’s not how birthright works.

Harry’s still a prince even if he lives on the beach. Charles is still king even after writing love letters to tampons. William is still a prince even if he does zero work.

Fine. He's the prince of nothing meaningful, and she's his princess. They moved to California and did the Oprah soap opera. Their "subjects" view tbem as a joke.

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Disappointed with all the cynicism, derision, and yes, even hate, expressed in this thread!

Fact is:

- they are good-hearted philanthropists and in many ways, just an ordinary couple facing all the hurdles and many daunting challenges of raising two Black children in today’s America.

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Anonymous wrote:Disappointed with all the cynicism, derision, and yes, even hate, expressed in this thread!

Fact is:

- they are good-hearted philanthropists and in many ways, just an ordinary couple facing all the hurdles and many daunting challenges of raising two Black children in today’s America.

lol

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Wallace Simpson's husband also gave up his titles to marry an American.

Meghan was never a princess.

Meghan was a duchess.

Kate and Diana were princesses because they were married to the Prince of Wales.

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Anonymous wrote:Her hair looks fine. She's a child. It's a little frizzy, but not unbrushed.

That said, I think it's so strange they insist on doing holiday cards with a family photo while refusing to show their kid's faces. I don't need to see their kid's faces, that's fine. But if you want to protect their privacy, why do the holiday card with them in it? Or why not just send a holiday car to family and close friends with a real family photo, and not do a public card at all? If they wanted to express holiday wishes publicly, they could do so without a photo.

It's just such a strange choice.

I think maybe they do it because Archie may have the same problem with his eyes that Lady Louise had? I remember when he was born and seeing some pics/reading that he might have strabismus. I have known kids who had early surgery for this, but I know that Lady Louise didn't have her surgery until she was much older, so who knows.

Strabismes in a toddler can be corrected with a certain kind of glasses without surgery.

But the kid has to wear the glasses from time they are 2-3 until they are around 16/17.

The glasses are very thick, like grandma coke bottle glasses.

I am surprised that parents would choose surgery over trying the glasses option.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Totally understand: but if you reject being a part of it, then you don't get the benefits.

That’s not how birthright works.

Harry’s still a prince even if he lives on the beach. Charles is still king even after writing love letters to tampons. William is still a prince even if he does zero work.

Someone should tell Andrew all this lol

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Totally understand: but if you reject being a part of it, then you don't get the benefits.

That’s not how birthright works.

Harry’s still a prince even if he lives on the beach. Charles is still king even after writing love letters to tampons. William is still a prince even if he does zero work.

Fine. He's the prince of nothing meaningful, and she's his princess. They moved to California and did the Oprah soap opera. Their "subjects" view tbem as a joke.

She was never a princess.

She was s duchess.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

Totally understand: but if you reject being a part of it, then you don't get the benefits.

That’s not how birthright works.

Harry’s still a prince even if he lives on the beach. Charles is still king even after writing love letters to tampons. William is still a prince even if he does zero work.

Fine. He's the prince of nothing meaningful, and she's his princess. They moved to California and did the Oprah soap opera. Their "subjects" view tbem as a joke.

She was never a princess.

She was s duchess.

Ok. Duchess.