New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

You have no idea what your kid does in the classroom?

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

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Anonymous wrote:My senior kid has a burner he drops. Creativity is appreciated.

I don’t see how that is in anyway creative.

Especially when it was not his original idea. This has been happening in schools before APS adopted pouches. Lots of "creative" ideas on the internet.

Rather than creative, I call it lazy.

It’s mostly pathetic and proves the entire point of having the ban. They are so incapable of functioning without their phone for 88 minutes at a time that they buy fake phones to put in there instead so they can try to go to the bathroom during class and use their phone. It’s no different than a drug addict going to extreme lengths to get their hit. If your kid does this, they need the ban more than anyone.

Oh please. Calm down and get a hold of yourself. You’re going to give yourself a hernia with all your self righteous moral outrage.

Ridiculous try hard comment. I’m a teacher, I’ve been dealing with the phone problem for years and I’m telling you the only kids who still try to pull this bozo stunt are truly blobs who can’t exist off their phone. Their peers are sitting there chatting and working pleasantly and they’re jittering in their seat because they’re so agitated they can’t have their phone or they’re skipping to try to use it. It’s embarrassing.

It's embarassing for you that you can't manage your class without a pouch.

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

why is it such a problem for you if they take a quick look at their phone between classes?

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

This is so typical, you HAD to push for a ban without even understanding how students use them

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

You have no idea what your kid does in the classroom?

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

We go to private school for high school, we are just wondering about our middle schooler going to APS for high school next year.

Private schools have no cell phones at all all day, and there is not much time on the laptops either

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

This is so typical, you HAD to push for a ban without even understanding how students use them

So instead of answering the question, you take on a personal attack?

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

Classwork. It's not all lecture.

Classwork should be on paper, are they really doing this much time on screens, no wonder our test scores were dropping

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

This is so typical, you HAD to push for a ban without even understanding how students use them

So instead of answering the question, you take on a personal attack?

+1. It's probably the same poster throughout the thread responding this way.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

Classwork. It's not all lecture.

Classwork should be on paper, are they really doing this much time on screens, no wonder our test scores were dropping

I wish! I’m a teacher but with attendance rates I have to post everything online. It is much simpler to have them do online work because I’m required to make it available for them to submit when they’re not in my room. There’s no way I could do remediation for all the skippers and make parents happy about their grades

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

Classwork. It's not all lecture.

Classwork should be on paper, are they really doing this much time on screens, no wonder our test scores were dropping

I wish! I’m a teacher but with attendance rates I have to post everything online. It is much simpler to have them do online work because I’m required to make it available for them to submit when they’re not in my room. There’s no way I could do remediation for all the skippers and make parents happy about their grades

That is an interesting wrinkle, I had not considered that attendance and the increased absenteeism would’ve driven us to be more online, but that does simplify it a great deal for the teachers, my mom was a teacher, so I understand the whole problem of making up work for people to who were out

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

This is so typical, you HAD to push for a ban without even understanding how students use them

So instead of answering the question, you take on a personal attack?

It was stating the obvious. This person wants a ban when they don't know how students use their phones. Typical, unfortunately, of a certain loud parents advocacy group in APS, pushing for something they don't understand. Are you the same parent who wants pencil and paper instead of laptops in high school too?

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

why is it such a problem for you if they take a quick look at their phone between classes?

Deflection, but I'll answer your question:
I never said I had a problem with students looking at their phone between classes. I just wonder why it's so important for so many other parents that their kids be able to. So, again I ask:

why is between classes so important?

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

This is so typical, you HAD to push for a ban without even understanding how students use them

I didn't push for anything. Still, perhaps you could enlighten those of us who are not opposed to the restrictions and explain why it is so critical for students to be able to access their phones while they head to their next class or in the minute before their next class begins. I genuinely would like to know why those particular minutes throughout the day are so vital and why a few minutes in a designated place during lunch is not sufficient.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

You have no idea what your kid does in the classroom?

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

We go to private school for high school, we are just wondering about our middle schooler going to APS for high school next year.

Private schools have no cell phones at all all day, and there is not much time on the laptops either

You might want to reconsider public next year. Arlington high school can't function without laptops.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

Classwork. It's not all lecture.

Classwork should be on paper, are they really doing this much time on screens, no wonder our test scores were dropping

Yes. Perhaps you should get more involved so you understand why so many parents have been pushing against laptops and phones so much.