New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that the schools have not replaced it with other ways to set reminders, for parents to contact kids, etc.

The offices are not doing it, so now what?

It has never been the school's responsibility to set reminders for students. Schools have always had front offices and phones for parents to call and for students to go to to use the phone or have their parents contacted. Students still go to the school clinic when they're sick and the nurse still contacts the parents to pick up their kid.

It is NOT the SCHOOL's responsibility to replace a means of communication that they never started in the first place. Schools should have banned the phones from the beginning. They didn't; but they also didn't introduce phones to students and parents as the system for them to communicate with each other during the school day. YOU, WE, our KIDS brought them into the schools and just started using them. They've become a problem, interfering with the school's ability to teach, and the school is setting restrictions....just like they do for other things like tardiness, skipping classes, being in the hallways when they are supposed to be in class, smoking, drug use, offensive material on t-shirts, weapons.

YOU are the one who is responsible for figuring out how to schedule, coordinate, and make contingency plans ahead of time and how to call the front office and work problems through with other adults. The school HAS set policies and procedures: in cases of emergency, phones will be made available to the students as soon as safely possible; parents needing to contact their student may call the front office. If you need to pick them up mid-day, you go to the office and your child will be called to the attendance office to be signed out. If it's after-hours, your kid's phone is back in use.

But will someone in the office call the classroom to tell my child to come out of class? And how is this better? The teacher on here insisted that using classroom phones was much more distracting than a quick text. And someone in the office will need to take time to do this. It also interrupts the class and the lesson for the teacher to answer the phone, so that's lost teacher and instructional time too. How is this an improvement?

These are just such ridiculously small "harms" to a cell phone ban in comparison to the massive distraction the phones caused during the school day for educators. It's like you cell phone advocates have no concept of a cost benefit analysis, and in any event almost all of the benefit you identify inures to the adult's benefit (in this case you have to get out of your car and wait longer). I just don't care that you have to wait, kids can't take pics of their art, and kids can't tune their instrument using their phone when teachers and our experience as adults tells us that kids were on snapchat/IG/YouTube during the day instead of learning and socializing -- yeah, not all day, i get it, but who cares whether it was all day or not? They are in school for a limited time period and can put down social for a minute to practice living IRL. Get over yourself and put your kids first.

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It's all about "me."

i actually am trying to make a cost benefit analysis but the anti cell phone brigade is so triggered that you can't admit there are uses to the phones.

I admit there are uses for phones. I'm just saying none of them seem to be critical uses that can't be done without.

Then why are the teachers freaking out at the thought of not having them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that the schools have not replaced it with other ways to set reminders, for parents to contact kids, etc.

The offices are not doing it, so now what?

It has never been the school's responsibility to set reminders for students. Schools have always had front offices and phones for parents to call and for students to go to to use the phone or have their parents contacted. Students still go to the school clinic when they're sick and the nurse still contacts the parents to pick up their kid.

It is NOT the SCHOOL's responsibility to replace a means of communication that they never started in the first place. Schools should have banned the phones from the beginning. They didn't; but they also didn't introduce phones to students and parents as the system for them to communicate with each other during the school day. YOU, WE, our KIDS brought them into the schools and just started using them. They've become a problem, interfering with the school's ability to teach, and the school is setting restrictions....just like they do for other things like tardiness, skipping classes, being in the hallways when they are supposed to be in class, smoking, drug use, offensive material on t-shirts, weapons.

YOU are the one who is responsible for figuring out how to schedule, coordinate, and make contingency plans ahead of time and how to call the front office and work problems through with other adults. The school HAS set policies and procedures: in cases of emergency, phones will be made available to the students as soon as safely possible; parents needing to contact their student may call the front office. If you need to pick them up mid-day, you go to the office and your child will be called to the attendance office to be signed out. If it's after-hours, your kid's phone is back in use.

But will someone in the office call the classroom to tell my child to come out of class? And how is this better? The teacher on here insisted that using classroom phones was much more distracting than a quick text. And someone in the office will need to take time to do this. It also interrupts the class and the lesson for the teacher to answer the phone, so that's lost teacher and instructional time too. How is this an improvement?

These are just such ridiculously small "harms" to a cell phone ban in comparison to the massive distraction the phones caused during the school day for educators. It's like you cell phone advocates have no concept of a cost benefit analysis, and in any event almost all of the benefit you identify inures to the adult's benefit (in this case you have to get out of your car and wait longer). I just don't care that you have to wait, kids can't take pics of their art, and kids can't tune their instrument using their phone when teachers and our experience as adults tells us that kids were on snapchat/IG/YouTube during the day instead of learning and socializing -- yeah, not all day, i get it, but who cares whether it was all day or not? They are in school for a limited time period and can put down social for a minute to practice living IRL. Get over yourself and put your kids first.

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It's all about "me."

i actually am trying to make a cost benefit analysis but the anti cell phone brigade is so triggered that you can't admit there are uses to the phones.

I admit there are uses for phones. I'm just saying none of them seem to be critical uses that can't be done without.

Then why are the teachers freaking out at the thought of not having them?

Why stop at teachers? Why not advocate for banning phones for all adults if they are banned for K-12 students?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that the schools have not replaced it with other ways to set reminders, for parents to contact kids, etc.

The offices are not doing it, so now what?

It has never been the school's responsibility to set reminders for students. Schools have always had front offices and phones for parents to call and for students to go to to use the phone or have their parents contacted. Students still go to the school clinic when they're sick and the nurse still contacts the parents to pick up their kid.

It is NOT the SCHOOL's responsibility to replace a means of communication that they never started in the first place. Schools should have banned the phones from the beginning. They didn't; but they also didn't introduce phones to students and parents as the system for them to communicate with each other during the school day. YOU, WE, our KIDS brought them into the schools and just started using them. They've become a problem, interfering with the school's ability to teach, and the school is setting restrictions....just like they do for other things like tardiness, skipping classes, being in the hallways when they are supposed to be in class, smoking, drug use, offensive material on t-shirts, weapons.

YOU are the one who is responsible for figuring out how to schedule, coordinate, and make contingency plans ahead of time and how to call the front office and work problems through with other adults. The school HAS set policies and procedures: in cases of emergency, phones will be made available to the students as soon as safely possible; parents needing to contact their student may call the front office. If you need to pick them up mid-day, you go to the office and your child will be called to the attendance office to be signed out. If it's after-hours, your kid's phone is back in use.

But will someone in the office call the classroom to tell my child to come out of class? And how is this better? The teacher on here insisted that using classroom phones was much more distracting than a quick text. And someone in the office will need to take time to do this. It also interrupts the class and the lesson for the teacher to answer the phone, so that's lost teacher and instructional time too. How is this an improvement?

These are just such ridiculously small "harms" to a cell phone ban in comparison to the massive distraction the phones caused during the school day for educators. It's like you cell phone advocates have no concept of a cost benefit analysis, and in any event almost all of the benefit you identify inures to the adult's benefit (in this case you have to get out of your car and wait longer). I just don't care that you have to wait, kids can't take pics of their art, and kids can't tune their instrument using their phone when teachers and our experience as adults tells us that kids were on snapchat/IG/YouTube during the day instead of learning and socializing -- yeah, not all day, i get it, but who cares whether it was all day or not? They are in school for a limited time period and can put down social for a minute to practice living IRL. Get over yourself and put your kids first.

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It's all about "me."

i actually am trying to make a cost benefit analysis but the anti cell phone brigade is so triggered that you can't admit there are uses to the phones.

I admit there are uses for phones. I'm just saying none of them seem to be critical uses that can't be done without.

Then why are the teachers freaking out at the thought of not having them?

They aren't. One - maybe two - are simply stating what they use them for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

Again with the insults! The anti cell phone police are incapable of social media etiquette. Showing us once again why your children can't handle their phones if this is their model.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

Again with the insults! The anti cell phone police are incapable of social media etiquette. Showing us once again why your children can't handle their phones if this is their model.

Calling someone out is not an insult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

Again with the insults! The anti cell phone police are incapable of social media etiquette. Showing us once again why your children can't handle their phones if this is their model.

Calling someone out is not an insult.

You called the PP a dumb troll. Is that what you consider your polite language?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

Again with the insults! The anti cell phone police are incapable of social media etiquette. Showing us once again why your children can't handle their phones if this is their model.

If PP is going to act like a dumb troll, then I’ll call them a dumb troll.

STFU, dumb troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

Again with the insults! The anti cell phone police are incapable of social media etiquette. Showing us once again why your children can't handle their phones if this is their model.

If PP is going to act like a dumb troll, then I’ll call them a dumb troll.

STFU, dumb troll.

There you go again with the insults. This tells me you can't respond with logic or reason. It also tells me that some parents are the problem their kids can't handle phones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.

Except it was disruptive according to your story.

You illustrated the problem with allowing teachers to use their phones during the day remarkably well.

There is a serious reading comprehension issue. The use of the cell phone by the teacher PREVENTED disruption in the classroom.

You obviously didn't read her story. Try again.

Haha! I'm the example providing poster and using my phone to contact the office meant I got the help I needed and the kids weren't disturbed while working on their assignment. Anyone who has been in a classroom knows that phone calls are too interesting for kids and they will stop what they are doing to listen in. That's pretty clearly an argument in favor of letting teachers have a cell phone.

And you said your texting also caused a disruption with your students, who rightfully questioned why you were allowed to use it during class.

No. I didn't read again:

Not that it's needed, but here's a simple example of how a cell phone was helpful for me, a grown up, while teaching in a classroom. Perhaps I needed assistance in my classroom and my kids were reading quietly. I could text the office and ask for someone to be sent down. The kids wouldn't be disturbed, like if I had called on the landline, and we'd get the support we needed. No harm. No foul. Cell phones aren't the horrible thing some make them out to be.


The text to the office did not cause a disruption. That's the whole point. It's honestly very clear.

For the record, I never posted about how kids shouldn't have phones. I don't know why, when everything is anonymous, that people assume all posts are coming from one person. Different teachers at different schools and in different grades have different experiences. One shouldn't assume a 5th grade teacher and one teaching AP Gov would feel the same way about how to handle cell phone disruptions from their students. Yet, you seems to see teachers as a monolith.

It’s just some dumb troll trying to stir the pot.

Obviously teachers shouldn’t have the same rules as kids.

And obviously parents don’t get to make the workplace rules for other adults.

Again with the insults! The anti cell phone police are incapable of social media etiquette. Showing us once again why your children can't handle their phones if this is their model.

Calling someone out is not an insult.

You called the PP a dumb troll. Is that what you consider your polite language?

It wasn't me who wrote that. But "dumb troll" is way more polite than what I would call them.

[Anonymous]

I'm a retired teacher, now substitute. I had to get my phone out 3 times today to complete 2-step verifications to access email and Google.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a retired teacher, now substitute. I had to get my phone out 3 times today to complete 2-step verifications to access email and Google.

do students have the same verification?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a retired teacher, now substitute. I had to get my phone out 3 times today to complete 2-step verifications to access email and Google.

do students have the same verification?

No.