New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

honey we're not talking about in the classroom, APS already had away for instruction.
My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

By allowing use between classes it bleeds into class time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

You keep making up problems just to justify your kid having electronic apron strings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

I’m curious, are you college educated? What career do you have where you devalue the educational experience so much?

I'm curious, have you heard of parental controls on devices? Why do you assume cell phones devalue the education experience?

Sure, let me access the parental controls for all the kids disrupting classroom time while the teacher tries to teach.

I’m in tech, my kids phone are buttoned up. Your kids phone are the entire schools problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Are you really that unaware that your kid can get on social media on their APS devices or anything else they want to get on? Then again, this tracks, your kids is probably not gonna tell you with the way this stuff triggers you.

That’s an absolutely solvable problem. APS IT can lock the systems down, block all packets to those domains at the firewall. The APS devices don’t have cell service so the APS networks can easily filter those services and block VPN services etc.

Just because right now there are holes in policy implementation does not mean you throw away the whole policy.

I’m well aware of my children’s social media use, as I have packet sniffers on our network and their devices, and I agree the APS iPads are misconfigured for their use.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Still furor here in our family. We oppose it.

Well, thank god the school board listened to the teachers who experienced the consequences of parental selfishness all day rather than the selfish parents who wanted/needed to communicate with their precious snowflake all day. It’s one of the few times I’ve thought they got it almost right recently. Should’ve fully banned them.

+1
I'm fine with the few minutes in a designated place during lunch. A very reasonable compromise that eliminates much of the ridiculous angst about students being out of touch with coaches and employers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

[Anonymous]

I know APE wants to take credit for it but school board listened to the teachers. Teachers wanted bell to bell and they got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know APE wants to take credit for it but school board listened to the teachers. Teachers wanted bell to bell and they got it.

The minority of needy parents blaming APE parenrs of little kids is nuts to me.

- Consistent and overwhelming scientific evidence
- all the APS teachers who are seeing the impact on kids in schools
- most major public educational systems across the country
- all of the top private schools
- me, non APE parent of a HS er.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

You keep making up problems just to justify your kid having electronic apron strings.

This isn’t made up, you just don’t want to admit that cell phones fill a need in modern society. Why can’t you admit that? How about you and your kids try going without one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know APE wants to take credit for it but school board listened to the teachers. Teachers wanted bell to bell and they got it.

The minority of needy parents blaming APE parenrs of little kids is nuts to me.

- Consistent and overwhelming scientific evidence
- all the APS teachers who are seeing the impact on kids in schools
- most major public educational systems across the country
- all of the top private schools
- me, non APE parent of a HS ner.

What do you think this policy is going to solve exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

lol this is how you think high schools work? This is driven by naive parents of younger kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

Ask who? How? If they had their phone they could ask me if I dropped it off and where but how do you want this to happen now that ppl like you took this away.

And you think high schools call kids to the offuce? Hahaha you are clueless. Tell me how that works during lunch please - how do they know where my kid is? Who do they call?

This isn’t elementary school. Last time this happened the school told me to text my child!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love all the furor and exchanges on this topic before; but now that the policy has been voted on, the outrage seems to have evaporated.

It’s because people perceived it as an APE thing and that makes them go insane. I wouldn’t be surprised if some people who were initially against it or seeing a positive change in their students now that it’s being piloted at some school.

Get back to when when APE decides to disclose who their funders are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know APE wants to take credit for it but school board listened to the teachers. Teachers wanted bell to bell and they got it.

The minority of needy parents blaming APE parenrs of little kids is nuts to me.

- Consistent and overwhelming scientific evidence
- all the APS teachers who are seeing the impact on kids in schools
- most major public educational systems across the country
- all of the top private schools
- me, non APE parent of a HS ner.

What do you think this policy is going to solve exactly?

All those Wakefield teachers say there are fewer disruptions in class, kids are interacting more, engaging in class more. Probably one of the best things APS has done in years