New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

And when the kid needs to use the laptop at school?

Clearly you don’t have a kid in HS in APS.

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Anonymous wrote:My Yorktown kid reports that they were being told as they walked into school that they had to put their phones away right then and there. So not bell to bell but more like when you are in the building?

Well Youngkin’s directive doesn’t clarify but it seems that bell to bell is being taken to mean from the first bell ringing for the day to the last. If they’re walking in during the normal arrival time right around the bell, that would make sense.

Schools can determine how they want to handle it. I imagine it's much simpler to make everyone put their phones away as they arrive than for every teacher to take the time at the beginning of class.

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Anonymous wrote:My senior kid has a burner he drops. Creativity is appreciated.

He’ll get caught. Weird flex to announce you’re a bad parent.

NP. "Caught." So, what do you think will really happen if a kid gets caught. Honest question.

They take his real phone.

Theft.

No, rules enforcement. he gets it back at the end of the day.

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Anonymous wrote:My senior kid has a burner he drops. Creativity is appreciated.

I don’t see how that is in anyway creative.

Especially when it was not his original idea. This has been happening in schools before APS adopted pouches. Lots of "creative" ideas on the internet.

Rather than creative, I call it lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:My senior kid has a burner he drops. Creativity is appreciated.

I don’t see how that is in anyway creative.

Especially when it was not his original idea. This has been happening in schools before APS adopted pouches. Lots of "creative" ideas on the internet.

Rather than creative, I call it lazy.

It’s mostly pathetic and proves the entire point of having the ban. They are so incapable of functioning without their phone for 88 minutes at a time that they buy fake phones to put in there instead so they can try to go to the bathroom during class and use their phone. It’s no different than a drug addict going to extreme lengths to get their hit. If your kid does this, they need the ban more than anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:My senior kid has a burner he drops. Creativity is appreciated.

I don’t see how that is in anyway creative.

Especially when it was not his original idea. This has been happening in schools before APS adopted pouches. Lots of "creative" ideas on the internet.

Rather than creative, I call it lazy.

It’s mostly pathetic and proves the entire point of having the ban. They are so incapable of functioning without their phone for 88 minutes at a time that they buy fake phones to put in there instead so they can try to go to the bathroom during class and use their phone. It’s no different than a drug addict going to extreme lengths to get their hit. If your kid does this, they need the ban more than anyone.

Oh please. Calm down and get a hold of yourself. You’re going to give yourself a hernia with all your self righteous moral outrage.

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Anonymous wrote:My senior kid has a burner he drops. Creativity is appreciated.

I don’t see how that is in anyway creative.

Especially when it was not his original idea. This has been happening in schools before APS adopted pouches. Lots of "creative" ideas on the internet.

Rather than creative, I call it lazy.

It’s mostly pathetic and proves the entire point of having the ban. They are so incapable of functioning without their phone for 88 minutes at a time that they buy fake phones to put in there instead so they can try to go to the bathroom during class and use their phone. It’s no different than a drug addict going to extreme lengths to get their hit. If your kid does this, they need the ban more than anyone.

Oh please. Calm down and get a hold of yourself. You’re going to give yourself a hernia with all your self righteous moral outrage.

Ridiculous try hard comment. I’m a teacher, I’ve been dealing with the phone problem for years and I’m telling you the only kids who still try to pull this bozo stunt are truly blobs who can’t exist off their phone. Their peers are sitting there chatting and working pleasantly and they’re jittering in their seat because they’re so agitated they can’t have their phone or they’re skipping to try to use it. It’s embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting now that phone use is being restricted in the N Arlington high schools, too (& not just at Wakefield). I imagine those parents will have something to say.

And next year, will all schools use the yondr pouches? Or none?

Why? All the N Arlington parents I know support the ban.

Yorktown parent here - none of my friends support the ban

WL parent in N Arlington here and I don’t support the ban and neither do many of the parents I know.

Another N Arl parent. I think they should be able to use it between classes and at lunch.

Why is between classes so important?

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

And when the kid needs to use the laptop at school?

Clearly you don’t have a kid in HS in APS.

Then he will tell the teacher and then they will be forced to give them the paper option.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

And when the kid needs to use the laptop at school?

Clearly you don’t have a kid in HS in APS.

Then he will tell the teacher and then they will be forced to give them the paper option.

For online tests and group assignments?

Like I said, clearly you don't have a kid in HS (or even MS?) in APS.

You're like those APE nutters who get all hysterical about issues they don't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

If your kid doesn't have a laptop, you don't need to change the password. So, Step one: parent buys all the online textbooks and coordinates with every single teacher to get hard copies of every reading excerpt and any tidbit of whatever each teacher is using to fill out their curriculum. Good luck with doing that and doing it in a timely manner. Not everything is set in stone on day one. Teachers modify their lessons and plans as they go along throughout the year. Don't know what you're going to do re assignments on apps.

Obv I said change password. So when they get home I can unlock for them to access school work.

What do they need laptop for during class?

Classwork. It's not all lecture.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kid how it went. He’s at WL. I reminded him that it’s the policy and he said “I never used my phone during the day anyway. The teachers are just being bigger d*cks about it now and standing in the hallway yelling at us to put phones away.”

None of this means he’s paying more attention - he’s on his laptop listening to Spotify and watching YouTube.

So you’ve failed as a parent and you’re announcing it? What an odd choice.

What exactly am I supposed to do about it when he’s at school? I have told the teachers they can remove his computer or give him demerits or whatever, but they don’t. It’s their classroom.

I would tell them he needs to do his homework on paper and not have a school provided laptop. I would make him change the password and only I would have it, so he can’t use it at school and only can use electronics under my supervision.

Good luck with that.

I’m in tech and these are very easy controls to implement. What would I need good luck on?

Tell me you haven’t been in a school without telling me you haven’t been in a school. Have you looked at APS laptops? They’re all locked and configured at the school level and parents can’t change them. In middle school they blocked many sites but they don’t seem to be doing it in high school. Also, they don’t use textbooks and half the time they don’t give the kids paper copies of books to read. It’s all “online”.

A parent can change the password. Step one.

And when the kid needs to use the laptop at school?

Clearly you don’t have a kid in HS in APS.

Then he will tell the teacher and then they will be forced to give them the paper option.

For online tests and group assignments?

Like I said, clearly you don't have a kid in HS (or even MS?) in APS.

You're like those APE nutters who get all hysterical about issues they don't understand.

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Do you have a current student at all?