Why aren’t males attending college?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men can make more money than women even without a college degree, unfortunately.

I can't think of any such career open to men but not women

I think the prior poster is referring to the gender wage gap: https://blog.dol.gov/2024/03/12/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-gender-wage-gap#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20women%20working%20full,full%2Dtime%20made%20in%202023.

Women can work the same jobs as men, but are paid less. It’s closing but it is still significant.

[Anonymous]

I noticed that a lot of boys from UMC backgrounds really don’t fully jump into things and start getting organized for things like college admissions until later in the process, especially if they’re left to their own devices. In 9th-10th grade, some of them aren’t thinking ahead to 11th-12th grade. Come 11th grade, the girls have been on the ball a little longer in terms of keeping their grades up, summer planning, participating in clubs/activities, test prep, etc. however, that’s just my own individual observation in one school community. I could be wrong.

[Anonymous]

In 2010 30.3% of the US male population graduated from college. In 2022 it was 36.2%. The amount of men graduating from college has RISEN in the last ten years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2010 30.3% of the US male population graduated from college. In 2022 it was 36.2%. The amount of men graduating from college has RISEN in the last ten years.

Enrollment is going down. From https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/12/18/fewer-young-men-are-in-college-especially-at-4-year-schools/

"Today [2023], only 39% of young men who have completed high school are enrolled in college, down from 47% in 2011. The rate at which young female high school graduates enroll has also fallen, but not by nearly as much (from 52% to 48%)."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an engineering major and is surrounded by a sea of guys. It’s maybe 10-15% girls in most of her classes. But yeah damn those girls for taking 10-15% of the spots that should go to boys. Girls who code is clearly an awful, anti boy club. Girls should be cooking and cleaning.

My son is a humanities major and the stats for boys in those majors is less competitive than the stats for girls which likely helped him. There are more girls but no where near the gap in the engineering majors.

I'm sure your daughter earned her spot in engineering. Absolutely no one is suggesting she should be cooking and cleaning. You are diminishing her by making things about gender.

The OP’s post is claiming there is a gender imbalance favoring girls. Other posts bemoaned programs to support girls going into male dominated fields. Engineering is still 90% male dominated.

Who cares?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that a lot of boys from UMC backgrounds really don’t fully jump into things and start getting organized for things like college admissions until later in the process, especially if they’re left to their own devices. In 9th-10th grade, some of them aren’t thinking ahead to 11th-12th grade. Come 11th grade, the girls have been on the ball a little longer in terms of keeping their grades up, summer planning, participating in clubs/activities, test prep, etc. however, that’s just my own individual observation in one school community. I could be wrong.

I have seen this experienced this too. In talking with my friends with boys, I have realized, many boys do tend to mature late.

[Anonymous]

Only going to get worse as Trump and Vance badmouth higher Ed, defund colleges and the 18-29 male demographic becomes more enamored with this toxic masculinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men can make more money than women even without a college degree, unfortunately.

I can't think of any such career open to men but not women

I think the prior poster is referring to the gender wage gap: https://blog.dol.gov/2024/03/12/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-gender-wage-gap#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20women%20working%20full,full%2Dtime%20made%20in%202023.

Women can work the same jobs as men, but are paid less. It’s closing but it is still significant.

Exactly. I'm in a mostly female profession; most men in this profession make more than women, even if they aren't management.

ln addition, a lot of the trades are still hostile to women, and you would have to be able to put up with a lot of abuse. Not as bad as in the 70s or 80s, but still, it is abuse most men don't have to take in order to make decent money without a college degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men can make more money than women even without a college degree, unfortunately.

I can't think of any such career open to men but not women

I think the prior poster is referring to the gender wage gap: https://blog.dol.gov/2024/03/12/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-gender-wage-gap#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20women%20working%20full,full%2Dtime%20made%20in%202023.

Women can work the same jobs as men, but are paid less. It’s closing but it is still significant.

DH's work, which has been very pro-active, it's now the opposite. And the entire leadership team is female or URM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an engineering major and is surrounded by a sea of guys. It’s maybe 10-15% girls in most of her classes. But yeah damn those girls for taking 10-15% of the spots that should go to boys. Girls who code is clearly an awful, anti boy club. Girls should be cooking and cleaning.

My son is a humanities major and the stats for boys in those majors is less competitive than the stats for girls which likely helped him. There are more girls but no where near the gap in the engineering majors.

I'm sure your daughter earned her spot in engineering. Absolutely no one is suggesting she should be cooking and cleaning. You are diminishing her by making things about gender.

The OP’s post is claiming there is a gender imbalance favoring girls. Other posts bemoaned programs to support girls going into male dominated fields. Engineering is still 90% male dominated.

Who cares?

I don't think this is true at the college level. Just look at MIT - almost 50-50.

[Anonymous]

Show me success at third grade - and I will show you a college grad.

But think about a boys life by third grade.

- His anatomy makes it harder to sit than girls
- the war on recess and gym makes it even harder
-he has not had a single male teacher (with few exceptions even if there IS a male in the school he is likely to be in administration
-the entire past 10 years it has been female focused in school

-girls in STEM
-girls on the run
-grrrrrl power

We get what we project.

Lots of research on subject - great book called Raising Cain if you want to know more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an engineering major and is surrounded by a sea of guys. It’s maybe 10-15% girls in most of her classes. But yeah damn those girls for taking 10-15% of the spots that should go to boys. Girls who code is clearly an awful, anti boy club. Girls should be cooking and cleaning.

My son is a humanities major and the stats for boys in those majors is less competitive than the stats for girls which likely helped him. There are more girls but no where near the gap in the engineering majors.

I'm sure your daughter earned her spot in engineering. Absolutely no one is suggesting she should be cooking and cleaning. You are diminishing her by making things about gender.

The OP’s post is claiming there is a gender imbalance favoring girls. Other posts bemoaned programs to support girls going into male dominated fields. Engineering is still 90% male dominated.

Who cares?

I don't think this is true at the college level. Just look at MIT - almost 50-50.

50/50? The asian population is about 50/50 the other groups are lopsided.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an engineering major and is surrounded by a sea of guys. It’s maybe 10-15% girls in most of her classes. But yeah damn those girls for taking 10-15% of the spots that should go to boys. Girls who code is clearly an awful, anti boy club. Girls should be cooking and cleaning.

My son is a humanities major and the stats for boys in those majors is less competitive than the stats for girls which likely helped him. There are more girls but no where near the gap in the engineering majors.

I'm sure your daughter earned her spot in engineering. Absolutely no one is suggesting she should be cooking and cleaning. You are diminishing her by making things about gender.

The OP’s post is claiming there is a gender imbalance favoring girls. Other posts bemoaned programs to support girls going into male dominated fields. Engineering is still 90% male dominated.

Who cares?

I don't think this is true at the college level. Just look at MIT - almost 50-50.

50/50? The asian population is about 50/50 the other groups are lopsided.

MIT undergrad is 51% male overall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an engineering major and is surrounded by a sea of guys. It’s maybe 10-15% girls in most of her classes. But yeah damn those girls for taking 10-15% of the spots that should go to boys. Girls who code is clearly an awful, anti boy club. Girls should be cooking and cleaning.

My son is a humanities major and the stats for boys in those majors is less competitive than the stats for girls which likely helped him. There are more girls but no where near the gap in the engineering majors.

I'm sure your daughter earned her spot in engineering. Absolutely no one is suggesting she should be cooking and cleaning. You are diminishing her by making things about gender.

The OP’s post is claiming there is a gender imbalance favoring girls. Other posts bemoaned programs to support girls going into male dominated fields. Engineering is still 90% male dominated.

Who cares?

I don't think this is true at the college level. Just look at MIT - almost 50-50.

50/50? The asian population is about 50/50 the other groups are lopsided.

MIT undergrad is 51% male overall.

A lot of excellent schools are more male than female. Just off my daughter’s list: UIUC, Penn State, Maryland, Purdue, Boulder, and UW. All have big engineering programs and reasonably high admissions rates. The highly rejective schools that want kids to be finished like a debutante, with all the right ECs and essays and perfectly curated “authentic” personalities—well, they get the debutantes they are looking for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an engineering major and is surrounded by a sea of guys. It’s maybe 10-15% girls in most of her classes. But yeah damn those girls for taking 10-15% of the spots that should go to boys. Girls who code is clearly an awful, anti boy club. Girls should be cooking and cleaning.

My son is a humanities major and the stats for boys in those majors is less competitive than the stats for girls which likely helped him. There are more girls but no where near the gap in the engineering majors.

I'm sure your daughter earned her spot in engineering. Absolutely no one is suggesting she should be cooking and cleaning. You are diminishing her by making things about gender.

The OP’s post is claiming there is a gender imbalance favoring girls. Other posts bemoaned programs to support girls going into male dominated fields. Engineering is still 90% male dominated.

Who cares?

I don't think this is true at the college level. Just look at MIT - almost 50-50.

50/50? The asian population is about 50/50 the other groups are lopsided.

MIT undergrad is 51% male overall.

A lot of excellent schools are more male than female. Just off my daughter’s list: UIUC, Penn State, Maryland, Purdue, Boulder, and UW. All have big engineering programs and reasonably high admissions rates. The highly rejective schools that want kids to be finished like a debutante, with all the right ECs and essays and perfectly curated “authentic” personalities—well, they get the debutantes they are looking for.

UW is 57% female
UMD is 51% female
Penn state is 45% female
UC Boulder is 57% female

I didn’t check the others.