I tipped over the line this week and can’t support Biden

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Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

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If you decide sit out this election, then you have no right to complain when Trump spends the next 4 years destroying this country, alienating our allies, and making a mockery of democratic ideals.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

With the Biden border crisis we’re already losing the country.

As far as not voting for Biden, I can’t vote for a guy who can barely complete a sentence let alone come up with any coherent foreign policy. I’d trust a ham sandwich before I trust Biden again.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

With the Biden border crisis we’re already losing the country.

As far as not voting for Biden, I can’t vote for a guy who can barely complete a sentence let alone come up with any coherent foreign policy. I’d trust a ham sandwich before I trust Biden again.

We all know you’d never vote for him no matter what.

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Anonymous wrote:If you decide sit out this election, then you have no right to complain when Trump spends the next 4 years destroying this country, alienating our allies, and making a mockery of democratic ideals.

Biden has alienated our allies as well

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Anonymous wrote:1) Do you want your children or grandchildren to inherit a democracy?

2) Do you want to enable Putin to run over the Baltics like Hitler?

3) Biden is becoming more and more vocal, trying to reign in Netanyahu. We don’t control other countries.

We don't have to support Israel and give it money.

Why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Israel is a net drain on the US. They are also committing a genocide and other war crimes. They make it easy to cut them off.

Why won’t Biden do it? Because he (like all Zionists) has dehumanized Palestinians so thoroughly that he thinks it’s just “mowing the grass.”

I always knew Biden and Blinken were Zionists who listen more to Israelis than to Palestinians. What I did NOT know was that they also listen more to Israel than to their own base.

I want Biden in The Hague. Of course I’m not voting for him.

Again, why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Biden is obviously better for Americans than Trump.

And yet, you're willing to sacrifice Americans (especially the most vulnerable Americans) to promote Palestinian interests?

That's quite literally anti-American.

NP. The genocide is hurting America and Americans. The mass killing of Gazans and the attempt to wipe out a culture a very real. The damage to the U.S. is whole bunch of additional stuff, including reduced credibility, increased shipping costs, and quite likely substantially more developed war scenario planning from our adversaries.

Only a fool thinks this genocide (or whatever anodyne crap you want to call it) is anything but against the interests of nearly every Americans.

Why don't you care about SCOTUS? Please answer that. So far no one who says "I can't vote for Biden because ISRAEL!" will answer why they don't care about SCOTUS becoming even more conservative for the next 40 years if Trump gets elected and replaces Thomas and Alito.

They do not care about SCOTUS, they do not care anything about American democracy--if Trump gets in they consider that a plus--the American govt will self destruction and the Eastern powers can have it's way with it. All fine, at least Palestine will have a state then!

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

With the Biden border crisis we’re already losing the country.

As far as not voting for Biden, I can’t vote for a guy who can barely complete a sentence let alone come up with any coherent foreign policy. I’d trust a ham sandwich before I trust Biden again.

Trump is just as mentally unfit as Biden and Trump brings his lack of integrity to the table so he isn't a good choice either. Great times in America!

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Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

Nice deflection. I worked in immigration and 80% of ayum cases don’t meet the criteria.

But then again the use of VA facilities for millions of illegals is definitely maddening and should be stopped. Illegals don’t deserve to be here let alone using our facilities set aside for deserving vets and their families

So you don't believe in asylum. Got it.

80% are not eligible... but 20% are. And, our laws dictate that eligibility must be determined through a due process of law. And THEN you can deport the 80% who aren't eligible. But... that is a process that takes time and resources and people to do. Weirdly, the Republicans have been steadfastly refusing to provide staffing and resources to have those hearings - and there's currently more than a year's worth of backlog. And given the law says we can't just deport them without a hearing, what are we supposed to do with them? And yet again the Republicans have not had any coherent solutions. It's like as if the Republicans WANT the asylum process to remain broken. They won't change the laws or provide the resources to fix it.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

OMG. Get a grip and learn how to formulate thoughts without resorting to constant hyperbole.

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Anonymous wrote:I decided I wasn’t going to vote for Biden after 10/7 after he refused to stand with Israel and provide his unwavering, unconditional support.

Pro-choice, pro-LGBT Jew here. But Trump actually supports the Jews and will support Israel.

Interesting. How has Biden not supported Israel?

I mean, he is getting blasted from the left for not doing more for the Palestinians, getting a cease fire and a two state solution.
But you are saying he isn't doing enough for Israel while the left calls him Genocide Joe for providing much of the munitions being used in Gaza.

How do you square this circle?

Also, you understand that the GOP support for Israel is out of The Rapture myth, right? It has nothing to do with a democracy in the middle east or the Jewish people.

The bolded is such BS - it amazes me the garbage that Democrats spin. It just makes you sound absolutely moronic.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

With the Biden border crisis we’re already losing the country.

As far as not voting for Biden, I can’t vote for a guy who can barely complete a sentence let alone come up with any coherent foreign policy. I’d trust a ham sandwich before I trust Biden again.

You have the intellect of a ham sandwich. Maybe. On a good day.

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Anonymous wrote:I decided I wasn’t going to vote for Biden after 10/7 after he refused to stand with Israel and provide his unwavering, unconditional support.

Pro-choice, pro-LGBT Jew here. But Trump actually supports the Jews and will support Israel.

Interesting. How has Biden not supported Israel?

I mean, he is getting blasted from the left for not doing more for the Palestinians, getting a cease fire and a two state solution.
But you are saying he isn't doing enough for Israel while the left calls him Genocide Joe for providing much of the munitions being used in Gaza.

How do you square this circle?

Also, you understand that the GOP support for Israel is out of The Rapture myth, right? It has nothing to do with a democracy in the middle east or the Jewish people.

The bolded is such BS - it amazes me the garbage that Democrats spin. It just makes you sound absolutely moronic.
DP

Oh the irony. The Democrats spin???? Ha ha ha ha ha. Look in the mirror, Maga.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who sits out this election is truly misguided. The democratic principles underlying our country are seriously at risk. If you refrain from voting for Bide , you will be helping hasten the end of the United States as we know them. Is that really what you want?

OMG. Get a grip and learn how to formulate thoughts without resorting to constant hyperbole.

DP. It's not hyperbole. Just look at what Trump says. He lays it out quite bluntly. And his followers don't care.

Anyone who votes for Trump in 2024 is delusional. Or evil. No hyperbole. That's what is so scary.

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Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

So what do you do when you have bipartisan solution and Trump will not allow legislation to be passed. That's Biden's fault?

Again? What 'legislation? The 'legislation' Biden and the Dems put forward allowing in 4000-5000 people per day (=1.5M+ undocumented people flooding in per year?). The same legislation that simply asks for more more money for more border patrol and more judges so they can 'process' (i.e. more like let people go) faster?

Go pound sand. Biden and the Dems HAVE NEVER put forward any serious legislation to combat the open border problem. Trump is 100000000000% right to kill the 'deal'. It's no deal at all. It is simply writing into law Biden and the Democrats' open border policies. What kind of 'legislation' and 'deal' still calls for 1,500,000 people to enter here whenever they feel like it and completely undocumented? Every single American has a 1000% right to know that the people they're being forced to live with aren't imported criminals. They should have records of vaccination and education. We are allowed to be an autonomous country, which Democrats and progressives simply cannot comprehend, which is absolutely mind warping. Every single civilized country on the plant controls immigration and is allowed to have strict immigration control. Dems and Biden throw all of that out the window and tell everyone to come and keep coming. Just say 'asylyum' and be let in. Not only will we let you game our system, we'll spend more money on judges and officers so that this process moves faster!

I will no longer vote for a single Dem until they simply learn the damn concept of moral hazard. Literally all Biden would have had to do is not do anything and leave what Trump had in place and he'd have my vote. Close all loopholes for flimsy asylum claims, build as much fence as possible, and make life for undocumented migrants 10000000000000000x harder so that they get the message that it isn't worth coming to the US. Moral hazard. It's also unconscionable that this hasn't been done, because every day we do not deter migrants from deciding to come people die because they are willing to take the risk since our laws can be easily gamed. Once you remove the incentive people will stop deciding to come and lives will also be saved.

First of all, there aren't "open borders" - if there were open borders, we would have record apprehensions, encounters, interdictions and deportations.

DP. I couldn't read anything else in your post because this jaw-dropping claim stopped me in my tracks. You cannot be serious.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-hit-a-record-high-at-the-end-of-2023/

DP... Your own article link talks about apprehensions and expulsions. PP makes a valid point in that if we had "open borders" then neither apprehensions nor expulsions would be happening. Border Patrol would be doing NOTHING. Open means open. If apprehensions and expulsions are happening then the border is clearly not open. Pick any other phrase, I don't care, as long as it works - but "open borders" clearly does not work.

DP: We have de facto open borders. Some token amounts are deported. Even with the Chinese 70% of crossers get to stay. 0% should be allowed to stay.

No we don't. bunch of RWNJ liars.

The world knows the border is essentially open. That's why they're coming in the millions. How stupid do you think these people are?

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Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

So what do you do when you have bipartisan solution and Trump will not allow legislation to be passed. That's Biden's fault?

Again? What 'legislation? The 'legislation' Biden and the Dems put forward allowing in 4000-5000 people per day (=1.5M+ undocumented people flooding in per year?). The same legislation that simply asks for more more money for more border patrol and more judges so they can 'process' (i.e. more like let people go) faster?

Go pound sand. Biden and the Dems HAVE NEVER put forward any serious legislation to combat the open border problem. Trump is 100000000000% right to kill the 'deal'. It's no deal at all. It is simply writing into law Biden and the Democrats' open border policies. What kind of 'legislation' and 'deal' still calls for 1,500,000 people to enter here whenever they feel like it and completely undocumented? Every single American has a 1000% right to know that the people they're being forced to live with aren't imported criminals. They should have records of vaccination and education. We are allowed to be an autonomous country, which Democrats and progressives simply cannot comprehend, which is absolutely mind warping. Every single civilized country on the plant controls immigration and is allowed to have strict immigration control. Dems and Biden throw all of that out the window and tell everyone to come and keep coming. Just say 'asylyum' and be let in. Not only will we let you game our system, we'll spend more money on judges and officers so that this process moves faster!

I will no longer vote for a single Dem until they simply learn the damn concept of moral hazard. Literally all Biden would have had to do is not do anything and leave what Trump had in place and he'd have my vote. Close all loopholes for flimsy asylum claims, build as much fence as possible, and make life for undocumented migrants 10000000000000000x harder so that they get the message that it isn't worth coming to the US. Moral hazard. It's also unconscionable that this hasn't been done, because every day we do not deter migrants from deciding to come people die because they are willing to take the risk since our laws can be easily gamed. Once you remove the incentive people will stop deciding to come and lives will also be saved.

First of all, there aren't "open borders" - if there were open borders, we would have record apprehensions, encounters, interdictions and deportations.

DP. I couldn't read anything else in your post because this jaw-dropping claim stopped me in my tracks. You cannot be serious.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-hit-a-record-high-at-the-end-of-2023/

DP... Your own article link talks about apprehensions and expulsions. PP makes a valid point in that if we had "open borders" then neither apprehensions nor expulsions would be happening. Border Patrol would be doing NOTHING. Open means open. If apprehensions and expulsions are happening then the border is clearly not open. Pick any other phrase, I don't care, as long as it works - but "open borders" clearly does not work.

DP: We have de facto open borders. Some token amounts are deported. Even with the Chinese 70% of crossers get to stay. 0% should be allowed to stay.

No we don't. bunch of RWNJ liars.

The world knows the border is essentially open. That's why they're coming in the millions. How stupid do you think these people are?

You clearly do not understand why people come to America. You are too busy demonizing them. You don't even see them as human.