I tipped over the line this week and can’t support Biden

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

So what do you do when you have bipartisan solution and Trump will not allow legislation to be passed. That's Biden's fault?

Again? What 'legislation? The 'legislation' Biden and the Dems put forward allowing in 4000-5000 people per day (=1.5M+ undocumented people flooding in per year?). The same legislation that simply asks for more more money for more border patrol and more judges so they can 'process' (i.e. more like let people go) faster?

Go pound sand. Biden and the Dems HAVE NEVER put forward any serious legislation to combat the open border problem. Trump is 100000000000% right to kill the 'deal'. It's no deal at all. It is simply writing into law Biden and the Democrats' open border policies. What kind of 'legislation' and 'deal' still calls for 1,500,000 people to enter here whenever they feel like it and completely undocumented? Every single American has a 1000% right to know that the people they're being forced to live with aren't imported criminals. They should have records of vaccination and education. We are allowed to be an autonomous country, which Democrats and progressives simply cannot comprehend, which is absolutely mind warping. Every single civilized country on the plant controls immigration and is allowed to have strict immigration control. Dems and Biden throw all of that out the window and tell everyone to come and keep coming. Just say 'asylyum' and be let in. Not only will we let you game our system, we'll spend more money on judges and officers so that this process moves faster!

I will no longer vote for a single Dem until they simply learn the damn concept of moral hazard. Literally all Biden would have had to do is not do anything and leave what Trump had in place and he'd have my vote. Close all loopholes for flimsy asylum claims, build as much fence as possible, and make life for undocumented migrants 10000000000000000x harder so that they get the message that it isn't worth coming to the US. Moral hazard. It's also unconscionable that this hasn't been done, because every day we do not deter migrants from deciding to come people die because they are willing to take the risk since our laws can be easily gamed. Once you remove the incentive people will stop deciding to come and lives will also be saved.

This is absolutely and completely false. Are you unaware that the Senate already passed a bill with bipartisan support that makes a lot of progress toward dealing with the border problem? It's the Republicans who are refusing to take it up. They won't even put it on the floor for discussion or amendments, let alone a vote. To try and claim the Democrats aren't doing anything is a STRAIGHT UP LIE.

It should be noted that one of the chief authors of the Senate bill was Senator Jim Lankford, a deeply conservative Republican from Oklahoma who was joined at the hip to the other notorious right wing Oklahoman, Jim Inhofe. It's wild watching the MAGAs twist themselves into pretzels trying to claim bipartisan Senate bill is some kind of extremist left-wing open-borders manifesto that needs to be shut down, unvotable, dead-on-arrival when it's nothing of the sort. Clearly none of you have actually read it and instead are just relying on the BS MAGA propaganda you're being fed.

[Anonymous]

*wouldn't have

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden hasn’t done anything for people in poverty- the disabled that depend on SSI. Being on SSI doesn’t bring you to the poverty level in our country. It’s not right, especially when millions are coming in and given money and benefits. I don’t see Biden as the person I thought he was, of the leader he promised to be. I am sorry, but I can’t vote for him. I don’t understand how his administration is making any sense, these issues are co-mingled and they are not improving.

Huh?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/promise/1586/expand-and-increase-social-security-benefits/


He has done more than any president since FDR for people in poverty. WTF are you even talking about?

And...what is the GOP solution for these issues that you are staying home for presumably? They want to cut social security and medicare for everyone.

This disingenuous "I'M NeVeR VOtInG fOR BiDEn AgAIN!!!1!" poster is trying way way way too hard with these easily disproven garbage claims like "Biden never did anything for poor people." It's clear that they never voted for Biden in the first place and are instead trying to sell us on complete BS.

[Anonymous]

Biden hasn't done anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

So what do you do when you have bipartisan solution and Trump will not allow legislation to be passed. That's Biden's fault?

Again? What 'legislation? The 'legislation' Biden and the Dems put forward allowing in 4000-5000 people per day (=1.5M+ undocumented people flooding in per year?). The same legislation that simply asks for more more money for more border patrol and more judges so they can 'process' (i.e. more like let people go) faster?

Go pound sand. Biden and the Dems HAVE NEVER put forward any serious legislation to combat the open border problem. Trump is 100000000000% right to kill the 'deal'. It's no deal at all. It is simply writing into law Biden and the Democrats' open border policies. What kind of 'legislation' and 'deal' still calls for 1,500,000 people to enter here whenever they feel like it and completely undocumented? Every single American has a 1000% right to know that the people they're being forced to live with aren't imported criminals. They should have records of vaccination and education. We are allowed to be an autonomous country, which Democrats and progressives simply cannot comprehend, which is absolutely mind warping. Every single civilized country on the plant controls immigration and is allowed to have strict immigration control. Dems and Biden throw all of that out the window and tell everyone to come and keep coming. Just say 'asylyum' and be let in. Not only will we let you game our system, we'll spend more money on judges and officers so that this process moves faster!

I will no longer vote for a single Dem until they simply learn the damn concept of moral hazard. Literally all Biden would have had to do is not do anything and leave what Trump had in place and he'd have my vote. Close all loopholes for flimsy asylum claims, build as much fence as possible, and make life for undocumented migrants 10000000000000000x harder so that they get the message that it isn't worth coming to the US. Moral hazard. It's also unconscionable that this hasn't been done, because every day we do not deter migrants from deciding to come people die because they are willing to take the risk since our laws can be easily gamed. Once you remove the incentive people will stop deciding to come and lives will also be saved.

First of all, there aren't "open borders" - if there were open borders, we would have record apprehensions, encounters, interdictions and deportations. Yes, there is a serious problem on the southern border. It has been that way for decades. In both 2013 and 2024, there were bi-partisan bills that the democratic presidents have said they would sign and in both cases, the House GOP torpedoed it. So let's not talk about who is serious about fixing the border. The "wall" is mostly rusted out, sawed out, easily scaled by a $20 ladder and in many places, simply blew over in heavy winds. It was another of Trump's frauds.

Meanwhile, Biden got Mexico to invest over a billion dollars in border secuirty (a trump promise that Biden delivered):
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-biden-immigration-climate-and-environment-120f8a3fc440e3b2cccce6100e65b912

So lets talk about who is serious about border security, the democrats who have legislative fixes and technology investments to address the problems? Or the GOP whose business owners - including Donald Trump himself, hire "the illegals" so they can be paid less - and their bought for politicians who continue the gaslighting drumbeat on the issue without resolution. I mean, they controlled both houses of Congress and the White House for two years between 2017 and 2019 and did...NOTHING.

More words of little substance. No one believes what you Dem lobbysists/interns are pumping.

The border looks pretty open:

The post you are responding to is full of substance. You posted a video with a one line analysis that is nothing more than a cliche. Do you really think we are that dumb?

[Anonymous]

I decided I wasn’t going to vote for Biden after 10/7 after he refused to stand with Israel and provide his unwavering, unconditional support.

Pro-choice, pro-LGBT Jew here. But Trump actually supports the Jews and will support Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

Nice deflection. I worked in immigration and 80% of ayum cases don’t meet the criteria.

But then again the use of VA facilities for millions of illegals is definitely maddening and should be stopped. Illegals don’t deserve to be here let alone using our facilities set aside for deserving vets and their families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Well, as someone who wasn’t going to vote at all because of my disgust at the progressive left, Biden’s success in preventing a larger regional conflagration has convinced me to vote for him, so we cancel each other out. I also don’t believe for one second this is genocide, for what it’s worth.

This is pure delusion/fantasy.

No, it’s grounded in reality, unlike your delusions. This “genocide” would stop instantly if Hamas released the hostages, and it isn’t a genocide in the first place. You know that, I know that, the non-delusional world knows that including all the wealthy Islamic countries in the region that aren’t intervening at all.

I’m tired of all these privileged Americans caping for murderous terrorists in the US. Sorry, I’m not on the side of people who cheer on the people who drove nails into the vaginas of their victims. It’s just common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I decided I wasn’t going to vote for Biden after 10/7 after he refused to stand with Israel and provide his unwavering, unconditional support.

Pro-choice, pro-LGBT Jew here. But Trump actually supports the Jews and will support Israel.

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Do you want your children or grandchildren to inherit a democracy?

2) Do you want to enable Putin to run over the Baltics like Hitler?

3) Biden is becoming more and more vocal, trying to reign in Netanyahu. We don’t control other countries.

We don't have to support Israel and give it money.

Why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Israel is a net drain on the US. They are also committing a genocide and other war crimes. They make it easy to cut them off.

Why won’t Biden do it? Because he (like all Zionists) has dehumanized Palestinians so thoroughly that he thinks it’s just “mowing the grass.”

I always knew Biden and Blinken were Zionists who listen more to Israelis than to Palestinians. What I did NOT know was that they also listen more to Israel than to their own base.

I want Biden in The Hague. Of course I’m not voting for him.

Again, why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Biden is obviously better for Americans than Trump.

And yet, you're willing to sacrifice Americans (especially the most vulnerable Americans) to promote Palestinian interests?

That's quite literally anti-American.

NP. The genocide is hurting America and Americans. The mass killing of Gazans and the attempt to wipe out a culture a very real. The damage to the U.S. is whole bunch of additional stuff, including reduced credibility, increased shipping costs, and quite likely substantially more developed war scenario planning from our adversaries.

Only a fool thinks this genocide (or whatever anodyne crap you want to call it) is anything but against the interests of nearly every Americans.

Why don't you care about SCOTUS? Please answer that. So far no one who says "I can't vote for Biden because ISRAEL!" will answer why they don't care about SCOTUS becoming even more conservative for the next 40 years if Trump gets elected and replaces Thomas and Alito.

[Anonymous]

Trump is a rapist. It would be an insult having him represent the women of this country. He must not win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I decided I wasn’t going to vote for Biden after 10/7 after he refused to stand with Israel and provide his unwavering, unconditional support.

Pro-choice, pro-LGBT Jew here. But Trump actually supports the Jews and will support Israel.

Interesting. How has Biden not supported Israel?

I mean, he is getting blasted from the left for not doing more for the Palestinians, getting a cease fire and a two state solution.
But you are saying he isn't doing enough for Israel while the left calls him Genocide Joe for providing much of the munitions being used in Gaza.

How do you square this circle?

Also, you understand that the GOP support for Israel is out of The Rapture myth, right? It has nothing to do with a democracy in the middle east or the Jewish people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

Nice deflection. I worked in immigration and 80% of ayum cases don’t meet the criteria.

But then again the use of VA facilities for millions of illegals is definitely maddening and should be stopped. Illegals don’t deserve to be here let alone using our facilities set aside for deserving vets and their families

So you don't believe in asylum. Got it.

[Anonymous]

The alternative is worse

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

Nice deflection. I worked in immigration and 80% of ayum cases don’t meet the criteria.

But then again the use of VA facilities for millions of illegals is definitely maddening and should be stopped. Illegals don’t deserve to be here let alone using our facilities set aside for deserving vets and their families

So you don't believe in asylum. Got it.

Asylum is a law, not a religion. You don't need to believe in it. You need to follow the law.