It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

US undergrad admission system is totally broken. While our nation is in a dire crisis worse than 1957 Sputnik. While we are prioritizing AA/DEI/CRT BS over academic excellence, another nation is aiming hypersonic missiles at us. And that nation has a merit-based college entrance exam system. Not long ago they were a nation of poor peasants. Their best colleges take the best and brightest students and they don’t care about all the DEI BS, and they don’t care about BS essays either. Just google US News best global engineering schools and take a look at the top 50 or 100. Scary.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

But in reality, if you belong to the wrong race/ethnicity, or live in an incorrect zip code, you may well be rejected even with much higher SAT/GPA than the average admitted applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

But in reality, if you belong to the wrong race/ethnicity, or live in an incorrect zip code, you may well be rejected even with much higher SAT/GPA than the average admitted applicants.

If you choose to hyper-segregate, there are consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

US undergrad admission system is totally broken. While our nation is in a dire crisis worse than 1957 Sputnik. While we are prioritizing AA/DEI/CRT BS over academic excellence, another nation is aiming hypersonic missiles at us. And that nation has a merit-based college entrance exam system. Not long ago they were a nation of poor peasants. Their best colleges take the best and brightest students and they don’t care about all the DEI BS, and they don’t care about BS essays either. Just google US News best global engineering schools and take a look at the top 50 or 100. Scary.

Oh like we were taking the best and brightest in colleges in the 50s. Spare me your ridiculousness. If you really had an issue with merit you’d be looking at athletic recruiting and legacy but instead you just aim at brown people. Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

US undergrad admission system is totally broken. While our nation is in a dire crisis worse than 1957 Sputnik. While we are prioritizing AA/DEI/CRT BS over academic excellence, another nation is aiming hypersonic missiles at us. And that nation has a merit-based college entrance exam system. Not long ago they were a nation of poor peasants. Their best colleges take the best and brightest students and they don’t care about all the DEI BS, and they don’t care about BS essays either. Just google US News best global engineering schools and take a look at the top 50 or 100. Scary.

Oh like we were taking the best and brightest in colleges in the 50s. Spare me your ridiculousness. If you really had an issue with merit you’d be looking at athletic recruiting and legacy but instead you just aim at brown people. Pathetic.

Don’t get me started about what-aboutism. Athletic prowess is a merit. Legacy is a merit. It proves you have good genes. You love anti-white/Asian racism, don’t you?

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Anonymous wrote:People posting here about EC/essay's mattering or tipping the scale for a 4.3 don't seem to understand what yield protection means.

Kid A with 4.6 same scores and EC may get denied over kid B with similar scores EC but 4.2 if they think yield will be better, meaning the kid will accept.

The fact is they have barely a few minutes per application, no one is really reading these essays or thoroughly examining EC. They are cutting and culling based on objective metrics, which includes hooks, such as atheltics and race.

Hopefully OP kid got in some other places. Choice of college matters less and less in terms of prestige these days. Find a good fit including cost!

When you and others on this forum say athletics are a hook, do you mean recruited athletes or just kids who excelled/captained at a sport in high school (and/or on their club teams)?

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

Was engineering his major?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

Median test scores is higher, over 1300, says SCHEV. 75th percentile is much higher

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

Median test scores is higher, over 1300, says SCHEV. 75th percentile is much higher

Yep. And Engineering is even higher. So sick of the whiners who think their special, special snowflake is entitled to admission.

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

US undergrad admission system is totally broken. While our nation is in a dire crisis worse than 1957 Sputnik. While we are prioritizing AA/DEI/CRT BS over academic excellence, another nation is aiming hypersonic missiles at us. And that nation has a merit-based college entrance exam system. Not long ago they were a nation of poor peasants. Their best colleges take the best and brightest students and they don’t care about all the DEI BS, and they don’t care about BS essays either. Just google US News best global engineering schools and take a look at the top 50 or 100. Scary. [/quote

Google Chinese tech theft and industrial espionage and you will see how they got ahead.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

Good to see you have a firm grip on reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

And my four white, UMC kids had those kinds of stats and ECs applied to UVA and three were admitted and of the three who applied to VT, two were admitted. The system is not broken; it is just crazy competitive and thus unpredictable.