It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:People posting here about EC/essay's mattering or tipping the scale for a 4.3 don't seem to understand what yield protection means.

Kid A with 4.6 same scores and EC may get denied over kid B with similar scores EC but 4.2 if they think yield will be better, meaning the kid will accept.

The fact is they have barely a few minutes per application, no one is really reading these essays or thoroughly examining EC. They are cutting and culling based on objective metrics, which includes hooks, such as atheltics and race.

Hopefully OP kid got in some other places. Choice of college matters less and less in terms of prestige these days. Find a good fit including cost!

If no one is reading the essays, it's time to stop asking for them. Why are these schools wasting kids' time?

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Tech is not McLean Tech or Northern Virginia Tech

No one has said that in this thread

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

THIS! UVA falls ranks well below other schools on things like diversity. Who are all these URMs you think are getting in? Not visiting -- I mean actually getting in. The demographic stats just don't match your arguments on this front. Google is your friend (or not).
No school wants 10,000 of the exact same student. And certainly not the same exact from Northern Virginia. Without race as a factor, stats were NEVER the only reason for selection to any university in the US. Entering classes are curated, not culled from the top of the list. Always have been. There are only so many slots, OP's kid missed out on one. Want the schools that who want you and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:People posting here about EC/essay's mattering or tipping the scale for a 4.3 don't seem to understand what yield protection means.

Kid A with 4.6 same scores and EC may get denied over kid B with similar scores EC but 4.2 if they think yield will be better, meaning the kid will accept.

The fact is they have barely a few minutes per application, no one is really reading these essays or thoroughly examining EC. They are cutting and culling based on objective metrics, which includes hooks, such as atheltics and race.

Hopefully OP kid got in some other places. Choice of college matters less and less in terms of prestige these days. Find a good fit including cost!

NP. How about a kid with 4.6gpa/1550sat but with less than average ECs? Would colleges still yield protect the student? Or would some colleges assume this kid don't have a chance at top schools with such mediocre ECs, thus NOT yield protect him since the student likely accept the offer?

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Anonymous wrote:The Admissions people care about quotas, not quality.

Well then you should be happy they’re setting their “quota” targets so low.

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Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

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And a troll shall end it.

FINIS

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

How can the majority be biracial when they only represent 5% of the population?!

1) I think they meant as a minority or multiple race.
2) It is possible a lot of Asians and whites are declaring biracial to play the affirmative action game.

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This is the downside of University of Virginia moving up in quality. If they were like the SEC schools, then it would be easy for students to get accepted there.

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Anonymous wrote:I have zero sympathy for anyone complaining about getting in to any school if you didn't apply ED. Zero. You don't get to play the field and then cry when you aren't accepted if the school obviously knows they weren't your first choice.

Not everyone can apply ED for financial reasons. Some people want to weigh finances. Some people NEED to weigh finances, regardless of what is a first choice.

And ONCE AGAIN: you can back out of ED acceptance if they don't meet your financial requirements. How many times must this be repeated??

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

Sorry, what? You're assuming your kid was more qualified than those who were accepted? Check yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations on the 2 PPs whose DCs got into VT via VCCS!

This actually takes a lot of work to plan (ensuring that the transfer agreement exists for the anticipated major) and pull off (getting the minimum GPA and course requirements in a VCCS location for 2 years).

Wanted to put this into perspective because the VCCS option is routinely thrown around here like it's the magic solution for your DC. It can work, but your DC needs to make a full commitment to do this. Not everyone has the discipline to pull this off.

Yes, definitely a lot of work and not a magic solution. I am one of the PPs. My high achieving son was waitlisted at UVa and VT and has the ability to get through both schools and the minimum GPA at VCCS to get the GAA admission. Rather than fo to his safety school, he wanted to go to VT engineering. I am very proud of him.

DP. Congrats to your son, PP! He will love VT.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry to hear this happened at UVA. They had been pretty straightforward with their admissions based on GPA unlike VT which yield protects and wants 40% URM AND FG. I strongly believe state schools shouldn’t be yield protecting. Private schools cost so much and our VA schools are good - top students want to attend them.

I wish Youngkin would look into the games UVA and VT are playing instead of continually investigating made up issues in FCPS.

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Every college in the country is playing these games, with the exception of the UCs.

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Anonymous wrote:“Yield protection” is such a childish response to your kid not being accepted. Only on DCUM do parents really think that if their kid is rejected by a college it’s because their kid is too good for the school. Ridiculous.

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Talk about "saving face."

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.