Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn have broken up

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So much for the conspiracy theories that she had a secret pandemic baby, I guess.

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She can have anyone she wants.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s in her mid thirties. Yes nobody is denying that she is very successful and talented. But there’s always a difference between a breakup at 24 and a breakup at 34. And you are off your rocker dying on a hill insisting otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s in her mid thirties. Yes nobody is denying that she is very successful and talented. But there’s always a difference between a breakup at 24 and a breakup at 34. And you are off your rocker dying on a hill insisting otherwise.

Why aren’t you crying for Joe? Oh yeah: sexism.

Breakups always suck, sure. But acting like this is a tragedy because she’ll be an old maid forever is just …

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s 33 and will turn 34 this year during her tour. That’s no spring chicken when it comes to fertility. At the very least she’s unlikely to ever have more than a pair of children when or if she ever does get pregnant. And it’s sad to think about, but her baby boomer parents ain’t getting any younger. They could croak any day without seeing a grandchild.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s in her mid thirties. Yes nobody is denying that she is very successful and talented. But there’s always a difference between a breakup at 24 and a breakup at 34. And you are off your rocker dying on a hill insisting otherwise.

Th relationship forum is full of old threads from women her age furious that they wasted years of their life and notably their fertility on a dead-end relationship. Only a handful of nutters on here pretend it’s no big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s in her mid thirties. Yes nobody is denying that she is very successful and talented. But there’s always a difference between a breakup at 24 and a breakup at 34. And you are off your rocker dying on a hill insisting otherwise.

Why aren’t you crying for Joe? Oh yeah: sexism.

Breakups always suck, sure. But acting like this is a tragedy because she’ll be an old maid forever is just …

FFS. No one is saying she’ll be an old maid forever. But yes, at this point the best case scenario is that she’ll be a fairly older parent. IF someone wants kids, it’s inevitably sad that a six year relationship from ages 27-34 didn’t work out. Those are prime years for getting married and having kids, a notion that seems to offend you.

No one’s crying for Joe because sexist or not, it doesn’t work the same way for men. Sure, he’ll also be an older parent IF he wants kids, but it’s much more typical for a 38 year old man to be starting a family than a 38 year old woman. Yes, I know, Taylor is successful and rich and pretty! She can start a family at 38 too. She can start one at 45. But my point, which seems to be over your head, is that a breakup, particularly as a woman in your mid thirties, sucks if you want kids and haven’t had them yet.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s in her mid thirties. Yes nobody is denying that she is very successful and talented. But there’s always a difference between a breakup at 24 and a breakup at 34. And you are off your rocker dying on a hill insisting otherwise.

Why aren’t you crying for Joe? Oh yeah: sexism.

Breakups always suck, sure. But acting like this is a tragedy because she’ll be an old maid forever is just …

FFS. No one is saying she’ll be an old maid forever. But yes, at this point the best case scenario is that she’ll be a fairly older parent. IF someone wants kids, it’s inevitably sad that a six year relationship from ages 27-34 didn’t work out. Those are prime years for getting married and having kids, a notion that seems to offend you.

No one’s crying for Joe because sexist or not, it doesn’t work the same way for men. Sure, he’ll also be an older parent IF he wants kids, but it’s much more typical for a 38 year old man to be starting a family than a 38 year old woman. Yes, I know, Taylor is successful and rich and pretty! She can start a family at 38 too. She can start one at 45. But my point, which seems to be over your head, is that a breakup, particularly as a woman in your mid thirties, sucks if you want kids and haven’t had them yet.

But what about Joe’s poor parents, who might long to have grandchildren before they get too old to enjoy them?

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s in her mid thirties. Yes nobody is denying that she is very successful and talented. But there’s always a difference between a breakup at 24 and a breakup at 34. And you are off your rocker dying on a hill insisting otherwise.

Why aren’t you crying for Joe? Oh yeah: sexism.

Breakups always suck, sure. But acting like this is a tragedy because she’ll be an old maid forever is just …

FFS. No one is saying she’ll be an old maid forever. But yes, at this point the best case scenario is that she’ll be a fairly older parent. IF someone wants kids, it’s inevitably sad that a six year relationship from ages 27-34 didn’t work out. Those are prime years for getting married and having kids, a notion that seems to offend you.

No one’s crying for Joe because sexist or not, it doesn’t work the same way for men. Sure, he’ll also be an older parent IF he wants kids, but it’s much more typical for a 38 year old man to be starting a family than a 38 year old woman. Yes, I know, Taylor is successful and rich and pretty! She can start a family at 38 too. She can start one at 45. But my point, which seems to be over your head, is that a breakup, particularly as a woman in your mid thirties, sucks if you want kids and haven’t had them yet.

But what about Joe’s poor parents, who might long to have grandchildren before they get too old to enjoy them?

Yep, sucks for them.

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She can have a baby via surrogate or use her connections to adopt a healthy infant. NBD.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s 33 and will turn 34 this year during her tour. That’s no spring chicken when it comes to fertility. At the very least she’s unlikely to ever have more than a pair of children when or if she ever does get pregnant. And it’s sad to think about, but her baby boomer parents ain’t getting any younger. They could croak any day without seeing a grandchild.

Look what they get to see - their superstar daughter performing to sold-out stadiums, a tour de force.

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I'm Team Joe and glad he got away from her Swiftstorm. He seems low key in real life and in the movies I've seen him in. Joe can go live the life he wants without dealing with Taylor and her crazzzzy fans.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s 33 and will turn 34 this year during her tour. That’s no spring chicken when it comes to fertility. At the very least she’s unlikely to ever have more than a pair of children when or if she ever does get pregnant. And it’s sad to think about, but her baby boomer parents ain’t getting any younger. They could croak any day without seeing a grandchild.

How do you know she even wants kids?

You can live a happy, fulfilled life without them, you know?

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Everyone on DCUM will be singing her praises in 16 years when she has her IVF twins at age 50.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, anybody can get married and have kids. It's not that special, and it's not an accomplishment. You think Taylor Swift couldn't find a guy to marry or procreate with if that's what she wanted to do?

DP, but that’s exactly what we’re wondering. Has she made poor decisions, or does she not care about marriage or kids? There are plenty of attractive and successful thirty something women who never got married for various reasons. Some portion are by choice, and some portion of those are unmarried because they dated the wrong guys, stayed in dead end relationships for too long, or have issues that prevent them from attaining some personal goals they may have. Just because Taylor swift massively successful, it doesn’t mean her personal life may not be a mess. That’s what these worshippers of hers have wrong. She is a super successful person, but still a person who can have flaws.

hmmm the young woman who brilliant wrested back control over her intellectual property despite the obstacles surely seems like she has little sense of self or ability to achieve goals. you’re right, she just stupidly forgot to have a baby in her 20s!

meanwhile I guess you think Britney Spears made great reproductive choices?

No, but what’s your point? Britney has documented mental health struggles, so that feels like a cheap shot. Countless stable people in the entertainment industry have gotten married/partnered up and had children at reasonable ages. Here are some of the more intelligent or successful ones: Reese Witherspoon, Anne Hathaway, gwyneth Paltrow, Kate winslet, Adele, Kristen bell, Victoria Beckham, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Katherine Heigl, Leslie Mann, beyonce. Just some dozens off the top of my head.

Almost none of them stay married regardless of how old they were when they married or had babies- so if you’re implying that taylor is waiting for the perfect person to have kids with, the odds are going to be stacked against her no matter who she ultimately settles down with.

I like don’t even know what you’re defending at this point. Very few people here are calling her a failure for not being married or having kids. But she doesn’t talk about her personal life, so we don’t know if she wants those things. You seem to be offended by the suggestion that someone as rich or famous as Taylor swift isn’t immune to wanting typical things in a more typical window. Quite frankly it sounds like you’re taking this personally.

So your theory is that Taylor Swift is an evil B getting her comeuppance because she didn’t settle down and instead dated multiple men, and now she’s old and dried up, and deserves all the agony and regret she is no doubt experiencing (while on her record-breaking and acclaimed world tour)? She wasted her fertility like so many stupid women do by chasing Chads and now she deserves what she gets.

No, but my point exactly is that you’re pushing this narrative and no one else is. Who said anything about her being a b or getting comeuppance? Seriously, go take a walk and calm down.

lol you are the one pushing the narrative that it is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE why Taylor Swift doesn’t have a baby and how she couldn’t possibly be on birth control

Those particular posts weren’t me. There is a spectrum of crazy here, that person is on one side and you are on the other. In the middle you have people wishing her the best and hoping that, if she does want a a long term relationship and kids, she gets it because realistically, most people don’t plan to start those things in their late thirties or forties.

omfg. STOP. She is in her early 30s, rich as midas, gorgeous, and oh yeah, a superstar. where in the world do you get the picture she’s crying at her spinsterhood? she will always have a boyfriend (or husband) and can have a baby whenever/however she wants.

She’s 33 and will turn 34 this year during her tour. That’s no spring chicken when it comes to fertility. At the very least she’s unlikely to ever have more than a pair of children when or if she ever does get pregnant. And it’s sad to think about, but her baby boomer parents ain’t getting any younger. They could croak any day without seeing a grandchild.

Does she want kids?