Kristin Mink

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Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Maybe the hard-working men and women in MCPD could start by saying that the FOP doesn't speak for them? And yes, while there are hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity, there are also unfortunately police officers in MCPD who don't.


So the “bad apple” argument. Let’s vilify all of them because there’s a chance one of them is bad. That’ll help solve Montgomery County’s issues!
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I find it funny how much time and attention is spent on vague things like "institutional racism" by the mostly white MoCo Council. I live in PG County, and while we've got our own problems, this stuff ain't the top of our political agenda.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relax, Kristin.


Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Why would you trust a police force that dropped to traffic enforcement efforts by two thirds because of "everything that's going on" and now claims to be understaffed? You are a gullible bunch, aren't you.


They don’t CLAIM to be understaffed. They ARE understaffed.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/02/the-struggle-to-fill-police-911-call-taker-positions-in-montgomery-county/

They don’t refuse to do traffic enforcement. They are being discouraged to! Heck, that’s one of the things the council wants: police no longer enforcing traffic.

I am not gullible. My eyes are WIDE open.


Specifically, more automated traffic enforcement, fewer police traffic stops.


Police said their officers are refusing to conduct traffic stops. This is a work stoppage. Open your eyes.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relax, Kristin.


Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Why would you trust a police force that dropped to traffic enforcement efforts by two thirds because of "everything that's going on" and now claims to be understaffed? You are a gullible bunch, aren't you.


They don’t CLAIM to be understaffed. They ARE understaffed.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/02/the-struggle-to-fill-police-911-call-taker-positions-in-montgomery-county/

They don’t refuse to do traffic enforcement. They are being discouraged to! Heck, that’s one of the things the council wants: police no longer enforcing traffic.

I am not gullible. My eyes are WIDE open.


Specifically, more automated traffic enforcement, fewer police traffic stops.


Police said their officers are refusing to conduct traffic stops. This is a work stoppage. Open your eyes.


Specific quote, please. I’d love to see what was actually said.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relax, Kristin.


Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Maybe the hard-working men and women in MCPD could start by saying that the FOP doesn't speak for them? And yes, while there are hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity, there are also unfortunately police officers in MCPD who don't.


So the “bad apple” argument. Let’s vilify all of them because there’s a chance one of them is bad. That’ll help solve Montgomery County’s issues!


The "bad apple" argument, in full, is: one bad apple spoils the whole barrel.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relax, Kristin.


Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Why would you trust a police force that dropped to traffic enforcement efforts by two thirds because of "everything that's going on" and now claims to be understaffed? You are a gullible bunch, aren't you.


They don’t CLAIM to be understaffed. They ARE understaffed.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/02/the-struggle-to-fill-police-911-call-taker-positions-in-montgomery-county/

They don’t refuse to do traffic enforcement. They are being discouraged to! Heck, that’s one of the things the council wants: police no longer enforcing traffic.

I am not gullible. My eyes are WIDE open.


Specifically, more automated traffic enforcement, fewer police traffic stops.


Police said their officers are refusing to conduct traffic stops. This is a work stoppage. Open your eyes.


Specific quote, please. I’d love to see what was actually said.


All the sessions are recorded and public. I am not your transcriber. If you care so much about this issue, watch the session.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relax, Kristin.


Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Why would you trust a police force that dropped to traffic enforcement efforts by two thirds because of "everything that's going on" and now claims to be understaffed? You are a gullible bunch, aren't you.


They don’t CLAIM to be understaffed. They ARE understaffed.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/02/the-struggle-to-fill-police-911-call-taker-positions-in-montgomery-county/

They don’t refuse to do traffic enforcement. They are being discouraged to! Heck, that’s one of the things the council wants: police no longer enforcing traffic.

I am not gullible. My eyes are WIDE open.


Specifically, more automated traffic enforcement, fewer police traffic stops.


Police said their officers are refusing to conduct traffic stops. This is a work stoppage. Open your eyes.


Specific quote, please. I’d love to see what was actually said.


All the sessions are recorded and public. I am not your transcriber. If you care so much about this issue, watch the session.


No, I don’t really care that much. I simply suspect you gave us a rather creative paraphrase.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relax, Kristin.


Nice try. I just appreciate people who step up, run a hard-fought campaign, and actually CARE about social justice.


I do, too. That’s not what I see, though. I’m afraid she’s going to join Jawando in attacking our police. We have hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity. They don’t deserve the absolute disdain that comes their way from the county. They DO deserve to feel supported in their job.

With rising crime and a diminishing police force, I want to know what she’s going to do to help. She’s on the Public Safety Committee. These problems are hers to solve. What will she do to make this county more attractive to police recruits after years of being vilified by this council?

Public safety affects ALL of us.


Maybe the hard-working men and women in MCPD could start by saying that the FOP doesn't speak for them? And yes, while there are hard-working men and women in MCPD who show up daily and serve this community with respect and integrity, there are also unfortunately police officers in MCPD who don't.


That would be a lie. The FOP literally does represent its members, who pay dues and elect officers. Liars make bad cops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I find it funny how much time and attention is spent on vague things like "institutional racism" by the mostly white MoCo Council. I live in PG County, and while we've got our own problems, this stuff ain't the top of our political agenda.


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Work stoppage
Traffic stops are on the decrease due to the pandemic as well as political rhetoric following egregious incidents of police violence throughout the country.

“Politically, we have had a very difficult time getting officers reengaged because of the rhetoric,” said Captain Brian Dillman said, pointing specifically to the death of George Floyd.
https://www.mymcmedia.org/report-traffic-stops-are-down-but-racial-disparities-are-not/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Work stoppage
Traffic stops are on the decrease due to the pandemic as well as political rhetoric following egregious incidents of police violence throughout the country.

“Politically, we have had a very difficult time getting officers reengaged because of the rhetoric,” said Captain Brian Dillman said, pointing specifically to the death of George Floyd.
https://www.mymcmedia.org/report-traffic-stops-are-down-but-racial-disparities-are-not/

So you did paraphrase. That doesn’t say they are participating in a work stoppage. It simply says they are affected by being beat down by politicians.

I see you didn’t post this part:
“ Dillman also noted that the force is down 127 officers while the number of calls received has increased.

Montgomery County police patrol 507 square miles and more than 1.1 million residents”

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Anonymous wrote:Work stoppage
Traffic stops are on the decrease due to the pandemic as well as political rhetoric following egregious incidents of police violence throughout the country.

“Politically, we have had a very difficult time getting officers reengaged because of the rhetoric,” said Captain Brian Dillman said, pointing specifically to the death of George Floyd.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/report-traffic-stops-are-down-but-racial-disparities-are-not/

So you did paraphrase. That doesn’t say they are participating in a work stoppage. It simply says they are affected by being beat down by politicians.

I see you didn’t post this part:
“ Dillman also noted that the force is down 127 officers while the number of calls received has increased.

Montgomery County police patrol 507 square miles and more than 1.1 million residents”



The number of officers is down, but not by two thirds. They are doing far, far less work, and blaming "the rhetoric". That is a work stoppage. You may think it is a justified work stoppage, but they are refusing to do their jobs. I think the notion that we should spend more money on people who refuse to work is hilarious. But don't worry, the Council is eating it up.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Work stoppage
Traffic stops are on the decrease due to the pandemic as well as political rhetoric following egregious incidents of police violence throughout the country.

“Politically, we have had a very difficult time getting officers reengaged because of the rhetoric,” said Captain Brian Dillman said, pointing specifically to the death of George Floyd.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/report-traffic-stops-are-down-but-racial-disparities-are-not/


So you did paraphrase. That doesn’t say they are participating in a work stoppage. It simply says they are affected by being beat down by politicians.

I see you didn’t post this part:
“ Dillman also noted that the force is down 127 officers while the number of calls received has increased.

Montgomery County police patrol 507 square miles and more than 1.1 million residents”



The number of officers is down, but not by two thirds. They are doing far, far less work, and blaming "the rhetoric". That is a work stoppage. You may think it is a justified work stoppage, but they are refusing to do their jobs. I think the notion that we should spend more money on people who refuse to work is hilarious. But don't worry, the Council is eating it up.



You clearly don’t know policing. You realize they also respond to CALLS, correct? And that they aren’t running around pulling people over all day? Calls are way up and officers are down. As for your “work stoppage,” it simply isn’t happening. I know many cops, and they are too busy doing their jobs and covering the shortages. Are they upset with the council? Yes, and rightfully so. If you have paid ANY attention to this council for the past couple of years, you would know that the problems faced in recruitment and retention fall very heavily on the council and its vitriol toward the department.

And to say the Council is “eating it up”? Very mature.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Work stoppage
Traffic stops are on the decrease due to the pandemic as well as political rhetoric following egregious incidents of police violence throughout the country.

“Politically, we have had a very difficult time getting officers reengaged because of the rhetoric,” said Captain Brian Dillman said, pointing specifically to the death of George Floyd.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/report-traffic-stops-are-down-but-racial-disparities-are-not/


So you did paraphrase. That doesn’t say they are participating in a work stoppage. It simply says they are affected by being beat down by politicians.

I see you didn’t post this part:
“ Dillman also noted that the force is down 127 officers while the number of calls received has increased.

Montgomery County police patrol 507 square miles and more than 1.1 million residents”



The number of officers is down, but not by two thirds. They are doing far, far less work, and blaming "the rhetoric". That is a work stoppage. You may think it is a justified work stoppage, but they are refusing to do their jobs. I think the notion that we should spend more money on people who refuse to work is hilarious. But don't worry, the Council is eating it up.



You clearly don’t know policing. You realize they also respond to CALLS, correct? And that they aren’t running around pulling people over all day? Calls are way up and officers are down. As for your “work stoppage,” it simply isn’t happening. I know many cops, and they are too busy doing their jobs and covering the shortages. Are they upset with the council? Yes, and rightfully so. If you have paid ANY attention to this council for the past couple of years, you would know that the problems faced in recruitment and retention fall very heavily on the council and its vitriol toward the department.

And to say the Council is “eating it up”? Very mature.

I mean you won't even bother to watch the session. It's pointless to argue with willful ignorance.
Anonymous
Btw if they were too understaffed to go back to normal levels of traffic stops, they'd cite that as the reason. But instead they cite the "rhetoric". Basically, don't you dare criticize police, or we'll stop working.
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