Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Just note that the surviving roommate “froze in shock and locked her room”.

It does not say she thought “someone was hooking up and didn’t think anything of it.”

There is more to this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

+1 it's been hard for my brain to take me back there, at first when I read the report I was pretty horrified and confused. But if you really take yourself back to a super crazy party house in college with lots of roommates (which it was reported this house was even before the affadavit, it was the house where lots of people were coming and going), you can sort of get in the headspace where she assumed it was a weird hook up and he'd left. I don't know how close she was to the roommate, I was usually close to my roommates so would have gone to check if they are ok. But post college I lived in a house with 5 people and I didn't know all of them that well, so i maybe wouldn't have been as comfortable? I mean personally I'm always the one that calls 911 even in college I was the friend being like uhh something is wrong here and dealing with it, that being said I had plenty of friends who are nice people who I can imagine being very passive in a situation like this. Also, masks aren't that weird now... which is a factor.

At first I was horrified she didn't call the police but thinking back to when I was in my early 20s and lived in a house with 3 other girls, I can understand. I was friends with one of the girls but didn't know the other two very well. One of them was strange and had a constant stream of guys coming and going from the house. They were big drinkers. If I'd heard her crying and saw a strange guy leaving, I would've assumed she had a fight with her guy of the moment. The mask thing is weird but I also don't think the poor girl suspected a murderer. There were several times I heard people coming into the house, stuck my head out, saw someone I didn't recognize and went back in my room and locked the door, simply because I didn't want some random guy coming into my room. Never would I have thought my roommate was being murdered. That poor girl has to live with this the rest of her life.

Your experience is interesting, but in no way the same thing. All of these girls were very good friends and had lived together for years. That's been established.

NP: Remembering back to my 20 year old self living in a shared house, I can imagine standing there and feeling super spooked, but after I closed my door thinking something like, "I'm terrified but it's because I'm a weirdo and I'm kind of drunk and what would I even tell the police-oh I heard a weird noise in my loud house and saw a guy walk down the hall? I need to just get over myself and go to sleep.

Like someone on Reddit pointed out, even the 9/11 victims on the first plane didn’t appreciate the gravity of their situation, based on phone calls to loved ones. Humans can experience something off or creepy but not assume the worst.

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I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

Nope. The affidavit makes it clear that his phone was turned off while he was at the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

Nope. The affidavit makes it clear that his phone was turned off while he was at the scene.

Yes from 3-5am

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

Nope. The affidavit makes it clear that his phone was turned off while he was at the scene.

Or in airplane mode.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

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I fail to see what Tik Tok has to do with it. Tik tok didn't give away her whereabouts. He clearly had been casing the place for weeks or months. We're not even sure which roomate(s) specifically he was targeting, if any. So much more to learn.

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Anonymous wrote:Witness encountered BK on the 2nd floor? Where the sliding glass door was? But her bedroom was on the first floor? Or am I getting something wrong?

She came out three times to see what was going on. You got it correct

Okay, so per the affidavit she heard a thump, opened her door, thought it was a roommate playing with the dog. Then hears Xana crying and the "Don't worry I'm here to help you", opens door again. Then it's quiet, opens door a third time and sees him walking by. For whatever reason he does not attack her. She is anxious but unsure what it was all about, so locked herself in her room and went to sleep. Wakes up 7-ish hours later, texts her roommates, then realizes something bad did happen and calls 911.

We know Xana was awake. He must have killed her boyfriend first (the thump?) and she was terrified but was in shock and cried rather than screamed. He must have incapacitated her quickly since it was then quiet. The others were murdered in their sleep, so no noise.

Who said “Don't worry I'm here to help you"?

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Anonymous wrote:Witness encountered BK on the 2nd floor? Where the sliding glass door was? But her bedroom was on the first floor? Or am I getting something wrong?

She came out three times to see what was going on. You got it correct

Okay, so per the affidavit she heard a thump, opened her door, thought it was a roommate playing with the dog. Then hears Xana crying and the "Don't worry I'm here to help you", opens door again. Then it's quiet, opens door a third time and sees him walking by. For whatever reason he does not attack her. She is anxious but unsure what it was all about, so locked herself in her room and went to sleep. Wakes up 7-ish hours later, texts her roommates, then realizes something bad did happen and calls 911.

We know Xana was awake. He must have killed her boyfriend first (the thump?) and she was terrified but was in shock and cried rather than screamed. He must have incapacitated her quickly since it was then quiet. The others were murdered in their sleep, so no noise.

Who said “Don't worry I'm here to help you"?

A male voice. Presumably the murderer, but we don't know.

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

Well sure is brave of you to opine, not having been in that uncertain situation.

I could see myself being scared, frozen — too frozen and shocked to act. I hope I would call but you never know until you are in the situation. I am also tired of roommates being blamed.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

She was on TikTok in that she was on her phone watching videos on TikTok. She wasn’t streaming or posting videos.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

She saw him leave, wearing a mask. Are you kidding me? She was scared enough to lock herself in her room, but didn't call? WTH

Maybe her phone was charging in another room? poor thing is traumatized

She’s going to face a lot of criticism poor girl. Fight, flight and freeze is real but her reaction in this scenario will be seen as extremely rare.

Based on the relative lack of noise, I don't think so.

I’ve been following Reddit. Many view the more common reaction when not dialing for help being to run for help after seeing the perpetrator leave. Children have done this before, adults as well. There’s another similar crime where a young woman in a home where roommates were killed escaped with her dog to the backyard though she was apparently without access to a phone. She was escaping from a floor beneath the crime scene into a fenced in yard with no escape route.

You're talking about scenarios where witnesses knew others were being attacked. She didn't!

How did she know her crying roomate wasn't sexually assualted or something though?

Because it quieted down very quickly. Again, this was a party house with people in and out all the time.

We need to teach our kids that it's not safe.

Lol

To be known as a party house?

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Anonymous wrote:Just note that the surviving roommate “froze in shock and locked her room”.

It does not say she thought “someone was hooking up and didn’t think anything of it.”

There is more to this.

Why didn’t she call police right away?? Or call her roommates to make sure they were ok. This is strange/confusing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be interested to hear if the victim's tiktok was a public account, and if the murderer watched her videos. Putting one's life on public display always seemed unwise to me. Back in the day we were warned not to reveal our location and vacation plans on facebook. These days it seems like kids are constantly sharing too much info online about their daily activities.

The affidavit says one of the victims was on tiktok at 4am, and that the murderer had his phone with him. Was he watching her on tiktok while he was driving back and forth? Shudder

She was on TikTok in that she was on her phone watching videos on TikTok. She wasn’t streaming or posting videos.

PP clearly doesn't know what Tik Tok even is. She just wants to post about "kids these days."