CogAT score is here

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So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?

It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.

Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.

That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.

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Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.

12 month age range is typical within a grade

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Some kids are held back if they have summer birthday. I think parents do that to be more competitive in sports but academically it hurts the child rather than benefiting.

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Just checked and my 3rd grader's cogat showed up in SIS this am.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 3 continuous days taking a test and answering 50 questions in one shot, seems to be a problem with some gifted kids. Then they miss some questions or in the end cants focus. It’s a lot to handle for a 7 year old.

As a parent of an older kid in AAP and a 2nd grader who is not in-pool, if a kid can't do the test they may not be the best candidate for AAP. Whether it should or not, the program requires high executive functioning.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC attempted all questions but missed one question in math. She attempted 49 out of 50 questions. She scored 47 raw score. Math is her strength. That one question brought her score down. May be she got distracted and clicked next button by mistake without answering the question. It’s harsh for kids 7 years old to take this big test which determines their admission.

Yes but that’s why they also look at teacher evaluations and work samples. Those do play a big role in selection.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?

It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.

Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.

That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.

.

Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.

12 month age range is typical within a grade

?

Some kids are held back if they have summer birthday. I think parents do that to be more competitive in sports but academically it hurts the child rather than benefiting.

There is no downside of waiting an extra year for kindergarten if your child needs it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?

It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.

Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.

That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.

.

Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.

12 month age range is typical within a grade

?

Some kids are held back if they have summer birthday. I think parents do that to be more competitive in sports but academically it hurts the child rather than benefiting.

There is no downside of waiting an extra year for kindergarten if your child needs it.

I redshirted my DS because of his September birthday.

He got in pool.

No downsides.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?

It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.

Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.

That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.

.

Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.

12 month age range is typical within a grade

?

Some kids are held back if they have summer birthday. I think parents do that to be more competitive in sports but academically it hurts the child rather than benefiting.

There is no downside of waiting an extra year for kindergarten if your child needs it.

I redshirted my DS because of his September birthday.

He got in pool.

No downsides.

I'm glad it's been right for him so far. He's got a long academic career in front of him and hopefully it remains correct.

Not redshirting is also correct for some. I know a parent who redshirted 2 kids and regrets it for 1.

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I did not redshirt my September kid and the kid is in the pool. No cogat scores yet but nnat was so high which makes me wonder if the age norming makes the scores less accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?

It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.

Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.

That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.

.

Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.

12 month age range is typical within a grade

?

Some kids are held back if they have summer birthday. I think parents do that to be more competitive in sports but academically it hurts the child rather than benefiting.

There is no downside of waiting an extra year for kindergarten if your child needs it.

I redshirted my DS because of his September birthday.

He got in pool.

No downsides.

I'm glad it's been right for him so far. He's got a long academic career in front of him and hopefully it remains correct.

Not redshirting is also correct for some. I know a parent who redshirted 2 kids and regrets it for 1.

Considering how young he would be in comparison with his peers in high school, I am glad to redshirt him.

Also- puberty sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:I did not redshirt my September kid and the kid is in the pool. No cogat scores yet but nnat was so high which makes me wonder if the age norming makes the scores less accurate.

I do wonder that too.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI...

90% 120.50
91% 121.45
92% 122.48
93% 123.61
94% 124.88
95% 126.32
96% 128.01
97% 130.09
98% 132.86
99% 137.22

Do we have any idea if these are national percentiles or just FCPS? Also, just for this year's test or inclusive of multiple years over time? I'd assume that this year's scores will be lower after almost 18 months of distance learning...

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Anonymous wrote:I did not redshirt my September kid and the kid is in the pool. No cogat scores yet but nnat was so high which makes me wonder if the age norming makes the scores less accurate.

DP. IME, AAP classes skew younger with smaller numbers of redshirted old-for-grade students and larger numbers of young-for-grade kids. Parents send their very smart, very academic kids to school on-time, even if they're immature.

And the way they do the age-norming, it gives a big bump to being young-for-grade, fwiw.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI...

90% 120.50
91% 121.45
92% 122.48
93% 123.61
94% 124.88
95% 126.32
96% 128.01
97% 130.09
98% 132.86
99% 137.22

Do we have any idea if these are national percentiles or just FCPS? Also, just for this year's test or inclusive of multiple years over time? I'd assume that this year's scores will be lower after almost 18 months of distance learning...

These are national numbers, it's just the way that the quartiles break out. But it's not correct. A 132 is 98th percentile (that's why that's the usual cutoff) and a 136 is 99th percentile.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FYI...

90% 120.50
91% 121.45
92% 122.48
93% 123.61
94% 124.88
95% 126.32
96% 128.01
97% 130.09
98% 132.86
99% 137.22

Do we have any idea if these are national percentiles or just FCPS? Also, just for this year's test or inclusive of multiple years over time? I'd assume that this year's scores will be lower after almost 18 months of distance learning...

Thanks, this is helpful. So national numbers for this year's test only?

These are national numbers, it's just the way that the quartiles break out. But it's not correct. A 132 is 98th percentile (that's why that's the usual cutoff) and a 136 is 99th percentile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FYI...

90% 120.50
91% 121.45
92% 122.48
93% 123.61
94% 124.88
95% 126.32
96% 128.01
97% 130.09
98% 132.86
99% 137.22

Do we have any idea if these are national percentiles or just FCPS? Also, just for this year's test or inclusive of multiple years over time? I'd assume that this year's scores will be lower after almost 18 months of distance learning...

These are national numbers, it's just the way that the quartiles break out. But it's not correct. A 132 is 98th percentile (that's why that's the usual cutoff) and a 136 is 99th percentile.

Thanks, this is helpful. So national numbers for this year's test only?