CogAT score is here

[Anonymous]

Oakton pyramid 2nd grade and not on SIS either

[Anonymous]

Robinson pyramid. Just received scores in the mail.

[Anonymous]

Woodson pyramid. Just received scores in the mail today.

[Anonymous]

Is there a reason all scores weren’t published on SIS on the same date? It doesn’t seem fair that some parents have the scores, while others - like myself have received no scores, or any info from the school as to when they will be available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a reason all scores weren’t published on SIS on the same date? It doesn’t seem fair that some parents have the scores, while others - like myself have received no scores, or any info from the school as to when they will be available.

For some reason they seem to leave it up to local schools to provide the info, which doesn’t make much sense. I’d ask your AART or principal why your school is so far behind the others in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Marshall pyramid.

131 (Composite)

No in-pool email

[Anonymous]

I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

You're going to have to ask AAP central office ([e-mail]), because they prepared the pool and apparently shared their methodology with no one. Or you can put in a VFOIA request for it (https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulations-and-notices/virginia-freedom-information-act-vfoia/freedom).

Is it ridiculous that the pool is a black box to everyone but Gatehouse? I think so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

Lol, that's the million-dollar question this year. No one knows--they're using building norms rather than national so it appears to be different at every school. For the Oakton pyramid, probably around 139 or 140.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

We don't know the score, there seem to be local norms determining in-pool scores this year so they differ from school to school. There was an email sent to parents for kids in-pool. If you did not receive the email, your hcild is probably not in-pool. Call your AART for more information.

[Anonymous]

Thanks all. Yes, agree on this being more difficult than it needs to be to find clear answers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

You're going to have to ask AAP central office ([e-mail]), because they prepared the pool and apparently shared their methodology with no one. Or you can put in a VFOIA request for it (https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulations-and-notices/virginia-freedom-information-act-vfoia/freedom).

Is it ridiculous that the pool is a black box to everyone but Gatehouse? I think so.

It's definitely frustrating as a parent but not really surprising when you think about it. Think about what would happen if they published the norms. There would be an immediate hierarchy at the center schools. Kids would be saying things like, "Larla isn't as smart as me because she came from (insert name of Title I school here) and my mom told me their pool cut-off was only 120. At (insert name of high-SES school) you have to be really smart to get into AAP."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

You're going to have to ask AAP central office ([e-mail]), because they prepared the pool and apparently shared their methodology with no one. Or you can put in a VFOIA request for it (https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulations-and-notices/virginia-freedom-information-act-vfoia/freedom).

Is it ridiculous that the pool is a black box to everyone but Gatehouse? I think so.

It's definitely frustrating as a parent but not really surprising when you think about it. Think about what would happen if they published the norms. There would be an immediate hierarchy at the center schools. Kids would be saying things like, "Larla isn't as smart as me because she came from (insert name of Title I school here) and my mom told me their pool cut-off was only 120. At (insert name of high-SES school) you have to be really smart to get into AAP."

They could publish the methodology for determining norms (15% of the class based on local score, or based on national score, or whatever). They don't have to go "<X> ES: 139."

I mean for crying out loud they don't even share the local building norm on the mailed/backpacked Cogat report. For my older (in AAP kid) they had local percentiles that were county-wide. I remember because my kid's NV percentile looked dismal compared to the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I received my son's scores today (FCPS - Oakton pyramid). What Composite(VQN) score is FCPS using this year as the cutoff? The form does not show how he compared locally under the "Local Scores" section.

You're going to have to ask AAP central office ([e-mail]), because they prepared the pool and apparently shared their methodology with no one. Or you can put in a VFOIA request for it (https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulations-and-notices/virginia-freedom-information-act-vfoia/freedom).

Is it ridiculous that the pool is a black box to everyone but Gatehouse? I think so.

It's definitely frustrating as a parent but not really surprising when you think about it. Think about what would happen if they published the norms. There would be an immediate hierarchy at the center schools. Kids would be saying things like, "Larla isn't as smart as me because she came from (insert name of Title I school here) and my mom told me their pool cut-off was only 120. At (insert name of high-SES school) you have to be really smart to get into AAP."

They could publish the methodology for determining norms (15% of the class based on local score, or based on national score, or whatever). They don't have to go "<X> ES: 139."

I mean for crying out loud they don't even share the local building norm on the mailed/backpacked Cogat report. For my older (in AAP kid) they had local percentiles that were county-wide. I remember because my kid's NV percentile looked dismal compared to the county.

Yes, I am the PP you quoted and I agree.

[Anonymous]

Spoke to AART and they sent out in-pool emails already. If you didn't get one, then your kid did not make the cut. This is for Oakton pyramid.