NVSL A meets

Anonymous
NP here. T3 division. We get an email Thursday night if kid is swimming and then they announce the specific events Friday morning. We have been at our pool for 10 years and it has always been this way regardless of who is the coach or team rep.

This is how summer swim is. You do not get much advance notice. You have marked availability so it should be in the plans if you told the team you could make it. Once your kid is a seasoned swimmer, you no longer have to wonder each week if they are swimming but I remember really waiting for that Thursday email in the younger years to see whether we would be at the pool on Saturday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is the coach of an NVSL team. I can tell you with certainty that she and an assistant coach sat at our kitchen table yesterday (wed) at lunch time and made the Saturday meet lineups.


And I'm at a high division pool and I can tell you that our coach makes the lineup and but the rep and others have their say, which is what happens. So there are multiple ways of doing it. I have seen it both ways. But yes, the reps do tell the coaches what to do at some pools and since they are employees they do it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.


Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.


This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.


Thank you for defending my honor, PP! I’m not sure what made them think I wasn’t describing an NVSL team. Maybe it’s unusual to get the roster first without events assigned?


It is unusual, but not a bad idea at all for a team where it would work. For our team, you'd have needed to sort out events before knowing who the sixth person in an age group would be, because generally it could be one of a few depending on what stroke has the empty lane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is the coach of an NVSL team. I can tell you with certainty that she and an assistant coach sat at our kitchen table yesterday (wed) at lunch time and made the Saturday meet lineups.


And I'm at a high division pool and I can tell you that our coach makes the lineup and but the rep and others have their say, which is what happens. So there are multiple ways of doing it. I have seen it both ways. But yes, the reps do tell the coaches what to do at some pools and since they are employees they do it.


The league rules are written to say the reps are in charge. If you want to contest, it goes through a rep (coaches are not allowed to do it). The final seeding is an exchanged arranged by the team rep. Coaches might seed the meet but then it goes to the rep afterwards. They could, in theory, make changes. All communications from the league go to the rep. Coaches have very little understanding of the big picture.

It is like a real league where you have the team owner/manager in charge and the coaches work for them. A bad team rep can destroy a team. A good one can do the opposite. There is a reason, people don't want the job.
Anonymous
Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.
Anonymous
Can we just collectively revisit the person who said releasing rosters on Thursday was dangerous?

We're just going to gloss over that?
Anonymous
Email notification goes out to the whole team on Wednesday from the coaches, not the team reps. Kids find out Friday at practice what they are swimming.
Anonymous
Hunger Games style cannon and holographic projection above the pool to announce.

Top 100 team
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can we just collectively revisit the person who said releasing rosters on Thursday was dangerous?

We're just going to gloss over that?


I have two theories here on what the previous poster was grasping at. Either (a) it gives kids (and parents) too much time to plot physical harm against rivals or (b) it doesn't allow kids enough time to focus in on the specific events they are going to swim, making it more "dangerous" for them personally. "If only Johnny had known on Tuesday that he was swimming backstroke this weekend, he could have focused on his stroke count from the flags. Instead, he practiced all his strokes Tuesday through Thursday and ended up crashing into the wall and giving himself a concussion on Saturday."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we just collectively revisit the person who said releasing rosters on Thursday was dangerous?

We're just going to gloss over that?


I have two theories here on what the previous poster was grasping at. Either (a) it gives kids (and parents) too much time to plot physical harm against rivals or (b) it doesn't allow kids enough time to focus in on the specific events they are going to swim, making it more "dangerous" for them personally. "If only Johnny had known on Tuesday that he was swimming backstroke this weekend, he could have focused on his stroke count from the flags. Instead, he practiced all his strokes Tuesday through Thursday and ended up crashing into the wall and giving himself a concussion on Saturday."


Could give little Timmy time to call in a favor so HE could swim instead.
Anonymous
We send out meet entries to families Wednesday evening or Thursday morning so we can confirm kids listed are still available and make any necessary changes before we need to lock in entries with the other team Thursday evening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We send out meet entries to families Wednesday evening or Thursday morning so we can confirm kids listed are still available and make any necessary changes before we need to lock in entries with the other team Thursday evening.


This is what our team has started doing as well. It makes so much more sense, especially as you’re able to confirm kids are actually going to be at the meet BEFORE the data exchange when it’s much harder to make changes and fill lanes. We had several seasons where they didn’t share until Friday morning and we ended up with empty lanes.

It’s also much easier to fill volunteer spots when families know Wednesday night if their kid is swimming vs Friday morning.
Anonymous
That dangerous comment made my morning! I'm still laughing.

I agree with everyone else, we've done some combination of Wednesday/Thursday/Friday over the years. Sometimes they send a roster out on Wednesday to double check availability (especially for 4th of July weekend). Then entries come out later.

Coach told my kids what they were swimming at practice this morning.

Once the first meet is set, it's easier to figure out if your kid will swim. But it's never easy being the bubble kid...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.


Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.


This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.


I'm so confused about what the apology should be... we get our roster Friday. You could also guess based on the published ladder.
Anonymous
Our team has a deadline to declare availability by Monday ... but they often spend Tuesday sending reminders and querying individual families.

Entries for that Saturday are decided on Wednesday, and sent to the team Weds evening or Thurs morning.

Then they spend Thursday and Friday pestering everyone with a swimmer in the meet to sign up for a volunteer slot.

Monday night B Meet sign-ups are due Sunday at noon, b/c we don't allow swimmers to compete on Monday if they placed in that event on Saturday.
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