NVSL A meets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:teams were requested not to publish a meet results on swimtopia until they could be "certified"

That’s incorrect. Where did you hear that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:teams were requested not to publish a meet results on swimtopia until they could be "certified"

That’s incorrect. Where did you hear that?

That could be correct as a division coordinator call; it's not an NVSL-wide rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:teams were requested not to publish a meet results on swimtopia until they could be "certified"

That’s incorrect. Where did you hear that?

That could be correct as a division coordinator call; it's not an NVSL-wide rule.

I don’t think that’s DC’s call to make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:teams were requested not to publish a meet results on swimtopia until they could be "certified"

That’s incorrect. Where did you hear that?

That could be correct as a division coordinator call; it's not an NVSL-wide rule.

I don’t think that’s DC’s call to make.

It is absolutely 100% the division coordinator's call as to when and how to release the data. Most don't care that much.

[Anonymous]

Oz behind the curtain. Tell your team how all of this works. Just be transparent if you have nothing to hide.

[Anonymous]

If the times come up right away into the app they are not official (they literally appear as soon as they are typed, with typos included).

We were told to uncheck that box in swimtopia so that we could release all the results at the end of the meet.

We release all the times (b meets included).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Pro tip from the lazy parent who isn't volunteering. Unless you're working tables, volunteers can't see every lane of every heat to keep track of all the times.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

Pro tip from the lazy parent who isn't volunteering. Unless you're working tables, volunteers can't see every lane of every heat to keep track of all the times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

Which d1 team? Ours is old school and it’s in a binder by the pool front desk. I’m surprised the other d1 teams aren’t more advanced

OKM gets a full ladder after every single meet, as well as time improvements, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

Dumbest response ever. Having all the parents standing around looking at the time boards is not the answer to increasing transparency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

Dumbest response ever. Having all the parents standing around looking at the time boards is not the answer to increasing transparency.

98% of swim parents aren't accusing swim coaches of having slower swimmers race, so if you're going to accuse anyone of anything you can spend 4 seconds for any stroke you need to monitor the times and take pictures, or write them down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

Dumbest response ever. Having all the parents standing around looking at the time boards is not the answer to increasing transparency.

It wasn’t an answer to transparency. It was an answer to figure it out yourself easily…but you go ahead and keep calling people dumb if it makes you feel so smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

Pro tip from the lazy parent who isn't volunteering. Unless you're working tables, volunteers can't see every lane of every heat to keep track of all the times.

Uhh timers can see every lane’s timing board. Pro tip: turn around. Table workers, announcers get times handed to them. Marshals either don’t have to move or have to move a few feet in order to see any relevant times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

Wow, wish our D1 team would publish a ladder. We have no idea how the kids stack up and there is no transparency. It’s like Oz behind a curtain.

After time trials and one B meet,
All you had to do to know where your kid stacks up in their age group is pay attention. Pro tip: read the time boards with the spinning number wheel after heats of each relevant event.

Pro tip from the lazy parent who isn't volunteering. Unless you're working tables, volunteers can't see every lane of every heat to keep track of all the times.

Uhh timers can see every lane’s timing board. Pro tip: turn around. Table workers, announcers get times handed to them. Marshals either don’t have to move or have to move a few feet in order to see any relevant times.

The lane one timer better not be wandering over to lane six to read some other kid's time and delaying the start of the next event. And then writing it down somewhere? Why isn't the answer just providing the data team-wide again?